my point of view

Nov 07, 2011,04:13 AM
 


This watch is only an 'inhouse' miammamia, personally I agree with those that expect Panerai to re-call those piece
 
- Maybe they will but would you  send your Daytona with 'Patrizzi' dial back to Rolex to get a new white dial without this discolored error ? Or what about the cream Explorer
I'm sure there are a lot of these exceptions out there.
Does it make the watch more beautifull ? Better ? Worse ?
I don't know but I do know that collectors go crazy for stuff like that
Panerai used a dozen of other movements Valjoux, Lémania, Rolex, Angulus, Zenith, GP, JLC, Cézard, Piguet, ...all these movements were finished good. The JLC ,  Zenith and others didn't need many extra modifications because they were fine just the way they are. When they used entry level movements like the Unitas 6497 they changed quite a lot on these movements. From early 1993 till 1997. And after 1997 these used Unitas movements got other bridges, ( stamped Panerai wording or Geneva Stripes) , perlage, blued screws, bevelling,... Every single Unitas got a serious 'upgrade'
Except these 150 in the 318.
So yes, it is a shame that these 150 got sold with that piece of crap inside but it does make them very special, rare or call it whatever you like..
 

But I guess that like me you did not buy this watch, imagine how you would feel if you did.

Call me crazy but this could be a reason for me to buy one. And if they would ever want to switch it with an OP II I would refuse it. At the end we pay too much for such a watch anyway. I mean, this raw movement will cost a bit less than 100 euro. How much dou you think it would cost after Panerai modified this ébauche  into an OP II ?? 200 ? 250 ? maybe 300 ? This makes a difference less than 200 euro on a 4 or 5 K watch. Whats the total production cost of a Rolex 116610 ? 1250 euro ? and these also sell for a price which is 5 times more.




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The mysterious Panerai 318.

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 6th, 2011-07:46
The mysterious Panerai 318. It took me some time but I managed to find somebody who has a PAM318. I wanted to see this piece irl, I had to see it to believe it. So thanks to the owner and thanks for having the guts to open this piece. Let's start with a c...  

Benefit of the doubt !

 
 By: bimbeano : November 6th, 2011-08:02
If it was a very cheap Miyota movement you couldn't give them that benefit ... ... but with this Swiss movement maybe the supplier made an error .... ... and if Panerai has some blind people working for them they couldn't have known it ... . Indeed hard t... 

There is few place to the doubt.

 
 By: amanico : November 6th, 2011-08:07
When it comes to making money, there is no place to Doubt, my friend. And even less to 150 mistakes, unless Panerai has an army of blind watchmakers. Well, it may be an explanation... There is even a long tradition of mistakes, these last 7 years... Aaah,... 

I like the ....

 
 By: P@trick@Belgium : November 6th, 2011-13:20
" long tradition of mistakes, these last 7 years... " it reminds me a bit the new style of car builders like BMW Audi Mercedes ... they show up every few months with a new model but they don't tell you that we are the "testdrivers" ..... Laboratorio di Id... 

would you ?

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 6th, 2011-13:50
Would you Patrick ? If you had one and you could send it back, knowing that they would put an OP II in it for free ? To be honest, I wouldn't. Definitely not !! It's like Rolex that would sawp a red sub dial with a new whte dial in your 1680, and why not ... 

So according to you

 
 By: PoyFR : November 6th, 2011-22:40
If you buy a BMW branded car that was sold to you with a Skoda engine, you would not change it because of Rolex status? I think that when you pay for something you ought to get what must be with or in it. And if you do let them get away with it, what's ne... 

my point of view

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : November 7th, 2011-04:13
This watch is only an 'inhouse' miammamia, personally I agree with those that expect Panerai to re-call those piece - Maybe they will but would you send your Daytona with 'Patrizzi' dial back to Rolex to get a new white dial without this discolored error ... 

You seem confused

 
 By: PoyFR : November 7th, 2011-06:33
My point is: Q1. - Maybe they will but would you send your Daytona with 'Patrizzi' dial back to Rolex to get a new white dial without this discolored error ? Or what about the cream Explorer A1: No I would not return it, you know why because they branded ... 

And, how about defying the replica market? [nt]

 
 By: PoyFR : November 7th, 2011-06:38
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They are not used to apologize, either.

 
 By: amanico : November 6th, 2011-14:07
And apologizing would mean that they assume that they made a mistake, which is not in their tradition... Either. Best, Nicolas.

That is an educated guess ;-) [nt]

 
 By: PoyFR : November 6th, 2011-22:25
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When I saw the movement of the 318 ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : November 6th, 2011-10:16
for the first time, I was shocked. Never expected top finish from that brand, but raw like this?! Do they take their collectors serious? Oliver

Inexcusable! [nt]

 
 By: aboen : November 6th, 2011-10:26
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Times are hard, his father has no money, and his mother is severely ill, Your Honor.

 
 By: amanico : November 6th, 2011-10:28
That Panerai case is not that good to plead. Best, Nicolas.

LOL :-)

 
 By: aboen : November 6th, 2011-11:32
It would be interesting to see what Panerai has to say though.

That. ;)

 
 By: amanico : November 6th, 2011-11:42

Surely Counselor you can come up with a better defence!

 
 By: ocwatching : November 6th, 2011-14:13
Come on Nico! LOL!

Lights shorted at the Panerai factory the evening the 318 were assembled ...

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : November 7th, 2011-01:35
... the watchmakers did their best working completely blind, but somehow the crate with the movements used as toys for the 6-10 yrs aged junior watchmakers to practice went into the way, and through the rubber finger protectors, the watchmakers could not ... 

Mamma mia. :)))

 
 By: amanico : November 7th, 2011-11:46

Nice work Bruno!

 
 By: ocwatching : November 6th, 2011-14:19
and those macros are really an eye opener!

Thanks for posting, Bruno.

 
 By: Davo : November 6th, 2011-14:23
Looking forward to hearing what kind of response Panerai has to this.

POy, I told you... Don't get me starting...

 
 By: amanico : November 6th, 2011-23:57
Ok, since you insist... Bold and ugly stories are popular: Gepetto! Best, Nicolas...  

not that far... (RMLOL)

 
 By: PoyFR : November 7th, 2011-00:03
There are plenty watches around.... This message has been edited by PoyFR on 2011-11-07 00:07:37...  

No excuses OOR.... :)))

 
 By: amanico : November 7th, 2011-00:13
Best, Nicolas...  

Mischief

 
 By: PoyFR : November 7th, 2011-00:25
Nico, seems that our drawing are similar... LOL Regalame ;-)...  

A close up on the stock options...

 
 By: amanico : November 7th, 2011-00:30
Hmmmmm! Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-11-07 00:32:00...  

A coin ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : November 7th, 2011-00:33
made out of platinum. Cool!

It is not platinum it is bronze marine.

 
 By: amanico : November 7th, 2011-00:43
Cheaper to produce, but brings more money than platinum... As for authenticity, ask one of the Chiefs. Best, Nicolas.

Mind you, in seeing them together...

 
 By: amanico : November 7th, 2011-00:47
There cannot be any surprise of what is inside... But for sure, one of them suppplied it! The privileged Firenze Clan. They have more drawers than I have pockets.... Best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2011-11-07 00:48:45...  

O H, M Y G O D !

 
 By: PoyFR : November 7th, 2011-00:50
O H, M Y G O D ! The sad thing about all this is that it proves me that I took the right decision, sore at times but 100% convinced.

LMAO!

 
 By: ocwatching : November 7th, 2011-11:40
Gotta love the French!

What great detective work.

 
 By: grigo : November 7th, 2011-02:37
I wonder whether Panerai will own up to this one day. All in all a sad story from my perspective. Best regards, George

Big problem for Panerai and Richemont

 
 By: 1watch : November 7th, 2011-19:25
see my comment in the earlier post below.

An amusing post!

 
 By: patrick_y : November 7th, 2011-22:56
Although the topic of your post is a very sad topic that has gotten many individuals riled up about the Panerai 318, I really enjoyed your post for your thoughts and for your opinions. Thank you for your humorous opinions and I agree; with only 150 pieces... 

"Nooooooo, please tell me they wouldn't dare and this bridge on the back is coincidence"

 
 By: dr.limms : November 12th, 2011-21:08
"Nooooooo, please tell me they wouldn't dare and this bridge on the back is coincidence LOL" Well, before they started making in-house movement, they have to make an in-house joke. Now I finally get the meaning why they used this movement in the 318!