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At a nice little get together in Geneva this evening we got to see a working Urwerk UR-CC1 "in the flesh". Inspired by a vintage Patek unique piece that shows the time in a linear display the UR-CC1 adds a spiral seconds display. This automatic movement w...  

of clothes. Back to the Future - we have been here before in the 1970's and we are re-inventing the digital wheel on this one. Sorry, but a waste of talent. Bulky and for what purpose? The DeBethune Digitale has a lightness of touch that makes it palitabl... 

I think you're spot on Andrew. I'm sure the execution is, as always, excellent but I can't help but feel that this project is a little self indulgent of Martin or Felix, or both. Dan

Honestly, I'm a tad bit dissapointed. I'll take a 201-202 and a plain-Jane 103 any day over this new watch. I saw this on Felix's wrist at Basel - I was waiting for closer pics - and now a bit of dissapointment. I agree - if I wanted my clock radio to tel... 

On another forum - This watch will only be made in a 50 piece series. So, its going to be a one off run type thing. Price - well, they speculated on the other site - If they are serious, I am going to find a new hobby. I truly believe either A. People don... 

I know that Urwerk brand has always been associate with bringing a new unique and modern haute horlogerie, and breaking the old concept of mechanical watch. The 103 and 201 was a definite success. Even though the 103 and 201 have some element of hyper-mod... 

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First, allow me to applaud Felix, Thomas, and Martin with their latest creation. They've taken a daring move to make this watch. Although it isn't well accepted, I'd like to remind our members that Monet's Impressionist art wasn't well accepted at first n... 

patick, Precisely......nobody remembers the Patek Philippe 'Cobra' So, can we take your vote as a "Maybe"? And the most points you give for being "daring"? Regards, MTF

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ae the first 2 words that come to my mind.

Weird and Big came to my mind too....but what is your final vote? Yes or No? Remember it is your fantasy money we are risking now......... MTF

The wrist shot – then is just a rather bad joke – gaudy, bulky and totally irrelevant in so many ways. A pity from such an enlightened brand.

I'm a big fan of the 103 and 202 collections : definitely a watch I could buy someday. But certainly not this one : I find the reading of the time less easy and less fascinating than the rotating parts of their other models. Emmanuel

This new one looks like an old radio from the 50ties... You can choose your favourite station, but to read time... Best, Nicolas

In today’s world where no one is surprised by off beat designs and where you need to put rust on a watch to get talked about, the Urwerk team of Baumgartner and Frei have managed to create a time telling device which is not only ingenious but also c... 

This is a pointless watch..........as haute horlogerie. BUT it has merit as an engineering exercise or college project....How to make things complexed when simple is disallowed. It is not easy to sing out of tune -- perfectly -- and so it is the same with...  

Thanks for the testimonial ;-)

...of this forum,you guys tend to bad mouth everything and everyone without having even the slightest idea on subject. For example: 103 & 202 the classic models. since when ? those are still in production; geez, the classic models are the 101 and the 102.... 

Dear goasia, As a public forum, all polite views are received to provide counter-checking weight. It is good that you submitted your views so we can have a vibrant and broad community discussion. That is the point of this virtual "cocktail party". Every p... 

and love that most everyone seems to dislike it!

polarbear1990, Please confirm that you like this watch BECAUSE, so far by posting count, other people don't like it? Then, it proves that is it's raison d'etre........ MTF

I actually love this watch.....feel bad already :-P Ok.....at least I will share with you what I love about it. In many ways, it is redundant as horology has advanced so much nowadays but this design was inspired by a Patek Prototype 50 years ago and now ... 

..the Dymaxion is also an hommage/inspiration, to another aerodynamic automobile made by the Romanian engineer Aurel Persu and patented in 1924 in Germany (Ford an GM showed their interest in buying the patent,but didn't wanted to building the car, so Per... 

Thanks for the info. *CL

CL, As I replied to goasia in another sub-thread, fans can also write in. Eventually, if we wait long enough, the "likers" will come out of the woodwork What do you like about this watch, in response to the 'dislikers' comments about the size, shape, func... 

I first know of 'this' watch when I saw a picture about the Patek prototype. I was fascinated by the imagination of that piece, especially during that era. it was made before I was born so it intrigues me alot I didn't know why Patek did not proceed to pr... 

I just showed the watch to my lady. She loves it She has great taste and very difficult to please. She likes the look of the watch and its story. Usually when she likes a watch, I get to buy it I immediately call my banker and realise it's not going to ha... 

....as I read your post until the last sentence about calling bankers...... Sorry mate! MTF

It's probably a blessing in disguise. I know I love this watch now but not sure its story will make it a life keeper. It's also too expensive to buy and try. After I showed my lady the King Cobra, I showed her the original Cobra.....she loves that a lot m... 

Totally in love with this creation! An absolutely unique concept and yet very recognizable as Urwerk! Bravo to the whole team! It looks so elegant on the wrist that I envy those 50 people who will become happy owners!

"unique"-ness? Is it for the low number of pieces - 50? Would the love be more if there were fewer pieces? Would the love be less if there were fewer facets? Regards, MTF

Not at all!))) It does not matter how many pieces there are, of course. Although probably you cannot make too many with this watch, at least at this period of time. As it raises to many questions even here at this forum. Saying unique I mean that its one ... 

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like their previous ground-breaking pieces, Urwerk lives up to its reputation for stirring emotions in the people who get to see these rare beasts. The mere fact that they garner so much emotion is proof positive already that they have achieved their goal... 

rob....er....are you a "liker" or "disliker"? And why? You could be Henry Kissinger in your diplomatic correctness....... Regards, MTF

Hi MTF. Can say am a liker because I find this piece to be continuous in line with Urwerk's heritage of alternative time-telling watches. In tracking evolution of pretty much everything that does, there comes a point when said growth will be subject to di... 

Definitely not my fav, I much prefer the 103, it's a very cool looking watch, love it. Thanks. Vte

Much prefer the 202

topcat, Please help the community by telling us why? The 'likers' are complaining there are no reasons to not love this watch. List the poinits of concern........pretty please. Regards, MTF

Thanks for your gut response. As others have complained that the community has been "too harsh", can you list the things you don't like to redress the balance? Respond with objective testimonial. Regards, MTF

I think Urwerk is the only company that are making watches that you could actually pick up girls with and this watch does not have that quality at all.

tourbillion1, Now.....that's a different slant on things......sex apeal as a factor in watch purchases. hmm......why not? I guess you are touching upon the evolutionary edge when competing in the same gene pool. Gotta attract the mate to propogate your ge... 

As I said: Not my fav Urwerk. I does not mean that I don't like it, i t just means that I prefer the other ones. Busy dial and not my fav design. Of course I like it, even could say that I love it but in terms of design, not my cup of tea, that's all. As ... 

So, whatever is its list price, I will pay 10% of it. Just like Opus 8. They are not completely useless. Regards Ling

i see it in "real" and definitely love this stunning watch! because: the pictures (sorry Don) dont feel exactely what we feel with this watch on hand - every details, the design, the weight, the beautiful seconds hand singularity ...everythings (!) i thin... 

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I am certain the engineering is fine. I wonder about the tendency too much kinetic scupture in the guise of innovation.

Well, I've been on record before in these forums as saying that I do not like the direction that haute horologie has been taking in the last several years, with complications being added for their own sake, ungainly, even freakish design, and pompous name... 

Remind me old transistor based radio...