i am a big fan of kv...

Mar 22, 2019,00:50 AM
 

but here, at least for me it does not work. There are other independent watchmakers out there that can do that kind of job better than KV.

A matter of an too clever client who absolutely wanted to have something that others haven't? I am sad seeing Kari embarking on such project as it confuses the image of the brand that he has patiently built up. 
Yes the watch has a lot to offer, but too many details can spoil a composition. Should you want a complicated almost illegible watch i would then go for Richard Mille. Romain Gauthier offer similar watches in that style, not my cup of tea, but all together more convincing. I do not feel we are playing on the strength of Kari here.
I love Kar's 10 minute Repeater, that had a similar approach. 




picture from KV's webside

But it had an all together much more convincing execution and the complexity of the watch was what made it interesting to show its complex beauty from the front side. Here, i feel, the time only watch is neither here nor there. and as some already have written. the watch is poorly legible.
Sorry for not chiming in with the delight of some...


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IMHO these two are stunning gorgeous

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-07:45
What do you guys think? I am at awe ...  
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perfect definition Bill [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-08:01
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KV, as usual, is amazing!! [nt]

 
 By: BMR : March 20th, 2019-08:38
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Thank you BMR [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:09
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Aa interesting point of view redcorals

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:10
Thank you for sharing it
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two amazing pieces

 
 By: ambel : March 20th, 2019-09:09
Mentioned the same a few hours ago to some friends Rolex - yawn Patek - ok Tudor - bwa The tow pieces of Baselworld for me at the moment: 1) Kari 2) Hajime asoaka - love this version of the Tsunami alex
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Hahahah

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:11
I like the Tudor also
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Thank you Vitalsigns

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:12
I think Patek is the best Bigboys of 2019.
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Love the Hajime Asaoka

 
 By: sham1 : March 20th, 2019-09:46
but a Voutilainen without a dial seems not quite right. Sublime movement nevertheless.
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Thank you Sham1

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:14
I didn't thought of it in the beginning. Perhaps I was so hypnotized by the movement. But you are right, KV identity/dial is missing. It could have been mistaken as GF for instance?.
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Or even a Moritz Grossmann backpage! :-)

 
 By: sham1 : March 20th, 2019-20:22
Brands like Voutilainen and RW Smith have glorious dials so this latest watch from Kari and Roger's open dial watch seem to be missing an important element - almost their brand identity.
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Very true

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-20:45
😀
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KV...

 
 By: tick28800 : March 20th, 2019-10:08
We are used to KV producing spectacular pieces. This is of course no exception but in my personal view of KV's work, the dial is an important piece of art. And removing it for me subtracts to the whole thing. The movement can also be usually seen from the... 
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I understand

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:16
I agree something is missing. Nonetheless I am hypnotized by it.
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Agree with Tick

 
 By: KonaJ : March 20th, 2019-10:39
I should be receiving my first KV in a month or so and one of the main reasons for my purchase was Kari’s spectacular dial.
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Congratulations JKE67425

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:17
Looking forward to you sharing your KV dial design with us.
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Love the Asaoka.

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : March 20th, 2019-10:44
Extra large balance wheel in the back is amazing
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Thank you thegrailwatch

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:18
I like Asaoka a lot too
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Gorgeous kv

 
 By: keks : March 20th, 2019-11:04
The HA I would have to see one day... love the dial execution from what I can gather from picture!
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Thank you Keks

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:20
If you like dial execution, IMHO KV is still exquisitely above HA, yet HA is beautiful clean in different way.
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Agree

 
 By: keks : March 23rd, 2019-02:13
The KV is simply spectacular... very special piece and even if I love his more traditional dials this one is just superb !
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Agree with you 😱

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : March 20th, 2019-13:00
These two are amazing , still would love to have a KV dail on the watch . The HA is drop dead gorgeous imho. Looking forward to see them in person soon .
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Thank you Watchonthewrist [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:20
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OMG the Kari is sublime... [nt]

 
 By: doubleup : March 20th, 2019-13:49
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Thank you Doubleup

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-16:21
Yes I can't stop looking at the KV
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Loving the dial of ...

 
 By: seehoo : March 20th, 2019-17:40
the Tsunami! I like the Kari but it deviates from what Kari does best.
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Thank you Seehoo

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 20th, 2019-17:46
it is so serene the tsunami. I like it alot.
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I love the Hajime!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : March 20th, 2019-18:48
I have actually had a love hate relationship with Hajime's watches but this is a winner for me. Love the subtle deviations of brown in the outer ring and the art deco element in his watch. The Kari is not my favorite. I understand why he did it but I love... 
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I think He is almost on par with GF [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 21st, 2019-04:00
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Are the HA pieces better finished than KV?

 
 By: cory : March 21st, 2019-10:40
I love both of these pieces so much.
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I think KV dial is better [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 21st, 2019-16:26
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Complicated

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : March 22nd, 2019-09:30
From my understanding, it is very different. Kari's dial are better but in-terms of movement finish, I believe that they have very different styles which is one of the reasons I have a love-hate relationship with Hajime. His watches have a very sterile/Ja... 
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Surgical minimalism is how HA be gorgeous [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2019-20:36
No message body
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Do you mean HA is almost on par with GF? [nt]

 
 By: cory : March 21st, 2019-11:26
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I meant KV

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 21st, 2019-16:26
Is very capable yet IMHO still one step behind GF
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Agreed!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : March 22nd, 2019-09:26
He is definitely on par with Greubal and Forsey but is more cheaper/smaller wrist so double win for me
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Agreed with others that a Kari V without the dial feels somewhat incomplete

 
 By: kykw : March 20th, 2019-20:05
Legibility of the open dial would be another issue for me. Top notch finishing for sure. Ken
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That certainly makes sense- he has every reason to show off his finishing, which is superb

 
 By: kykw : March 21st, 2019-04:53
Just my personal preference to have the equally beautiful dial. Would also be interested to see if the master plans to offer more complications again down the road. Ken
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KV interesting and the reverse doesnt make sense

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : March 20th, 2019-22:31
I would make the hands a bit easier to see
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agree [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 21st, 2019-03:59
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i am a big fan of kv...

 
 By: ztirual : March 22nd, 2019-00:50
but here, at least for me it does not work. There are other independent watchmakers out there that can do that kind of job better than KV. A matter of an too clever client who absolutely wanted to have something that others haven't? I am sad seeing Kari e...  
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aah. Thank you Ztirual

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 22nd, 2019-03:35
Those early KV is beyond amazing
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Yep, totally agree

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : March 22nd, 2019-09:33
I also like how, in the minute repeater, he had a little bit of dial around the edges but still showed the skeleton. he is such a master of dials that it seems almost a waste for him to NOT have a dial :p
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Beats doing more sim.card covers [nt]

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : March 23rd, 2019-06:33
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I do not mind abort the sim card covers...

 
 By: ztirual : March 23rd, 2019-11:35
different if it is on a watch that bears hvis name. The history of watch making abound with examples of watch manufactures that have produced other things than just watches, whether it be needles, technical components of some sort. It is all part and parc... 
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As a voutilainen owner i find that detracting

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : March 23rd, 2019-19:23
From a core competency or value proposition i.e. making beautiful hand crafted watches by branching out into common commercial enterprises detracts from the core value. Yes he owns a distinct from the atelier but do i want to see kari voutilainen snow gl... 
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thank you for the added information on that piece.

 
 By: ztirual : March 24th, 2019-05:06
I am also a huge fan, I have been following Kari from the start. for me it all started with the Observatoire, then one piece led to another and another... still waiting for a project that started som 6 years ago to be materialised. I guess when one is clo... 
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I have to agree with you my friend

 
 By: Mike H : March 30th, 2019-14:56
Not that it looks bad, but I miss the KV DNA and that is I believe a key point to always bear in mind for a Creator. Making a piece unique is fine, but it should remain a KV before anything else. Thanks for your input my friend.
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i would like to nuance my last comments...

 
 By: ztirual : March 26th, 2019-09:30
having now seen many other pictures of the Voutilainens new watch. i should have restrained from judging a watch on the base of one single picture. Voutilainens latest skeleton watch has, i must say, some wonderful sides to it, the back side being imho mo... 
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Totally agree [nt]

 
 By: Gelato Monster : March 26th, 2019-10:31
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KV. is spectacular

 
 By: mark1958a : March 26th, 2019-12:14
Love it.
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Voutilainen's hands and lugs always put me off...

 
 By: Poktori : March 27th, 2019-22:16
So I'd put my money towards a Hajime Asaoka.
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