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They All Need To Leave... that marketing list is 60 years old (1960s)
Still waiting for how they were chosen, and who chose them to begin with? Answer this please. Simply stated, "What is the true criteria?" If it is sales, then Rolec, Cartier and Omega are the Holy Trinity for 2024 
VC and ALS, perhaps, the others can go. But we know there's far better available.
what if one has to leave the Holy Trinity and one brand can take that spot ...
to make it easy, put your answer in the TITLE And if you want to explain your choice put it in the message So ... We have Audemars Piguet - Patek Philippe - Vacheron Constantin and ONE needs to LEAVE Now the other hand one brand can replace the one that l...
OUT - Audemars, IN - Breguet
I would let go the Royal Oak company And exactly for that reason ... If the RO would not exist the brand itself would probably be close to nothing
Out Audemars
In A. Lange & Sohne - the consistently high quality across the entire range make this brand a natural choice. I don't even like them as I prefer Moritz Grossmann and Lang & Heyne but these are excluded by your rules.
OUT - Audemars Piguet
IN - probably Lange, but a photo finish in the race with Breguet. I think AP will undoubtedly be the supermajority OUT brand.
OUT: AP - IN: AL&S
I really despise AL&S behaviour WRT "buying history" and that kind of nonsense but I can't find another brand that can satisfy the OP's requests. Maybe Breguet can be the other choice but their style is just not for me.
OUT AP - IN Grand Seiko (Masterpiece collection level)
One simply cannot find that level of quality anywhere else apart maybe from the likes of Voutilainen, Smith, Dufour and Rexhepi.
Frankly
I'd say VC and AP are both out and Breguet and Lange are both in. Patek, Breguet, Lange is a better 'trinity' in my book than Patek, Vacheron, AP.
OUT: Audemars Piguet In: A. Lange & Söhne
It seems this is becoming the consensus choice, with Breguet being mentioned often too. The Grand Seiko suggestion is interesting and certainly worth considering too. My choice for ALS is based on their commitment to their high levels of finishing of thei...
Audemars Piguet (OUT) & Breguet (IN)
The Royal Oak is overplayed and the La Traditions are lovely.
out AP - in Lange
As I was reading the responses, I can see Lange, Breguet and Grand Seiko all being good choices. The fact that the level of finish is equally good across the board in Lange is admirable. You pay for complexity. The Seiko Micro Artist Studio would be very ...
Oops.
Didn't read the rules. So the micro artist studio is out due to very small production. Lange then.
OUT: Patek. IN: Longines
Trying my best to be as blasphemous as calling any watch company part of the "Holy Trinity", especially during this week.
They All Need To Leave... that marketing list is 60 years old (1960s)
Still waiting for how they were chosen, and who chose them to begin with? Answer this please. Simply stated, "What is the true criteria?" If it is sales, then Rolec, Cartier and Omega are the Holy Trinity for 2024 VC and ALS, perhaps, the others can go. B...
AP Should to go
AP is doing cheesy collaborations with musicians, if you can call them that. I like the Star Wheel but that’s basically it. Patek is quality but also smart supply/demand and Vacheron has history and the most interesting pieces of the last 5 years. I have ...
Out : AP. In : Breguet.
I like breguet styles , they seems have great value for money especially in secondary market. You can find a 8K gold breguet which is way nicer than a steel rolex at the same price.
Out - AP (only due to RO obsession). In - Breguet
But then again, not sure I want crowds at Breguet Boutiques Breguet deserves podium but personally I like living in the quiet fringes
Maybe AP should leave the "old" category...
Whilst others have stuck with tried and true designs and incrementalism. If we stick with that appreciation of the traditional generation of watchmaking, ALS would be my vote to replace AP (side note: surprisingly, sales of CODE alone recently equalled AL...
UN aka Freaks that are post 2020.
These are watches that are more friendly to my wallet but most probably will never buy as it suppose to be grail to me. 😜