I personally know a strapmaker here in California . . .

Dec 16, 2019,15:23 PM
 

. . . who's at least considering moving out of state. 

:-(

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No more exotic straps in California?!?....I wonder how that can affect watch and luxury brand sales?

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 16th, 2019-14:12
The law applies to crocodiles, alligators, lizards, hippos (never seen hippo leather straps) as well as fur products. I cannot imagine how that can affect handbags, leather strap watches, especially many high end brands uses crocodile straps. It will be i... 

California ban

 
 By: Park : December 16th, 2019-14:29
Yesterday, I visited three Orange County boutiques of favorite brands and asked about this. All three confirmed they will no longer sell alligator straps in California as of January 1st. Two didn't yet know how corporate would handle it, but one of these ... 

Thanks for more detail info...

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 16th, 2019-15:05
It will be interesting to see eventually, if new Alligator strap companies will start hoarding and price increases. It’s still early for now.

I personally know a strapmaker here in California . . .

 
 By: Dr No : December 16th, 2019-15:23
. . . who's at least considering moving out of state. :-(

Or Arizona. And he may well be forced into moving . . .

 
 By: Dr No : December 16th, 2019-16:21
. . . as alligator and croc straps form a good portion of his business. It's a sad state of affairs, truly it is . . .

I saw a video clip on BBC spotlighting a fiber . . .

 
 By: Dr No : December 16th, 2019-15:21
. . . made from pineapple leaves. Vegan fabric is the result, and already in use for handbags and such. Odds are good that at least one manufacturer will offer pineapple straps. The goods, though, will be odd. ;-)

Pineapple strap LOL 😂

 
 By: ChristianDK : December 16th, 2019-23:12
Avocado skin? Banana peel?

When done, upcycle your purse, belt or strap...

 
 By: John-E-Mac : December 17th, 2019-03:31
...into a delicious dessert. ...  

A large kernel of truth in that observation, Fab . . .

 
 By: Dr No : December 17th, 2019-09:25
. . . or, as we're fond of saying here, "Misery loves company." ...  

Not to mention that the American alligator and American crocodile are no longer on the endangered list because of farming in LA, GA, and of course FL

 
 By: reintitan : December 16th, 2019-16:05
And it's these farms that produce raw material skins for the straps, bags, etc. If it wasn't for them "normal" conservation efforts wouldn't have saved these species from extinction. I live in CA (since 1980) and a lot of things that made this a great Sta... 

Those are not exotic enough so maybe the plan is to close the farms and let the reptiles go "natural"...

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 16th, 2019-16:18
Let's be nice humans and not change the way Mother Nature designs for the animals. Anyway, jokes aside....I think the "Grapes and Wines" are moving up already due to weather. Oregon is also sales tax free

Feelings are more important than facts!

 
 By: reintitan : December 16th, 2019-20:53
Just like that congressman [small C] who said that hearsay is stronger than direct evidence 🤦🏻‍♂️

We are trying to solve world hunger, one step at a time....

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 16th, 2019-16:13
with Alligators and Crocs roaming, ruling and eating humans, lol...

What about “road kill” ....

 
 By: Cpt Scarlet : December 17th, 2019-05:17
Is this exemption possible ;-))

Would any of you ever consider an embossed strap, if the quality was there?

 
 By: Thomas_3 : December 16th, 2019-15:46
I will admit to having a black embossed strap on a vintage watch and will admit it looks pretty good, it would take a trained eye to spot it.

I have many of them...

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : December 17th, 2019-00:48
... and they are really good. Difference with genuine alligator is very small. Marcus

LOL!!!! [nt]

 
 By: Emil Wojcik : December 17th, 2019-08:39

Doubtful, until reactor grown meat is a commodity

 
 By: jmpTT : December 16th, 2019-16:58
Most lizard leather is coming from farms now and most farmers are small business owners. If you frame the meat as the product and the skin as a waste product, the argument is something like, “We already farm alligators for meat, so why force us to throw o... 

I am never in favour of blanket bans but I am all I favour of ethically sourced and humanely gathered.

 
 By: Bounce781 : December 16th, 2019-17:10
Make the producers ethical; raise the price and tax it so that people who want alligator (and other exotic straps) pay appropriately; invest money in protecting species and habitats and see where that gets us. To me, this is the same argument for meat. Ma... 

Generally agree with you

 
 By: jmpTT : December 16th, 2019-18:54
Especially since a tax and reinvestment plan should incentivize the same change in behavior as an outright ban, without the outright restriction in freedom. I’m not well versed in the history of controlling and restricting exotic animal materials. Most hi... 

I purchased/ordered a black alligator strap...

 
 By: destrodan : December 16th, 2019-20:11
...along with the black rubber strap for my blue-dialed VC Overseas when I bought it a few months ago for this very reason (forgot about it until your post -- need to call tomorrow to make sure they have it). Kind regards, Dan

Hope they deliver it before year end which is 2 more weeks...

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : December 16th, 2019-21:43
Worst case they should be able to ship to Vegas (if they have a store) and send you for a nice holiday stay there to pick it up

Watch this Guys

 
 By: SALMANPK : December 16th, 2019-23:34
youtu.be S

Yeah, these are amazing news.

 
 By: Reuven Malter : December 16th, 2019-23:48
I watched a few documentarys about alligator skin production and never wanted to buy any leather again. So i went to a few ADs to ask for a very elegant, yet vegan alternative for my calatrava but nobody had one. So my hope is that things are going to cha...