SJX[Purist]
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I agree, there is too much unnecessary text all over, dial and case
In fact, even worse than writing "tourbillon" is "Tourbillon 3X20 seconds". That is an incredibly inane thing to put on the dial. Oh well.
- SJX
Cvstos Yachting tourbillion
By: SJX : December 24th, 2008-01:59
I like this one a lot. Yes the idea of a yachting limited edition reminds me of the Richard Mille Perini Navi but I like the execution of this Cvstos. The movement have wood inlaid into the baseplate, recalling the deck of a yacht. Although it is an odd c...
Cvstos - way to go!
By: tony p : December 24th, 2008-05:29
A long way to go, that is. Jiaxian, thanks for this excellent and informative report. You make the valid point that watches such as the Ingenieur, the Nautilus and (more recently) the Big Bang all started life as "me-too" efforts, but gradually attained t...
Well the thing is...
By: SJX : December 24th, 2008-06:12
The current products are good. From what I have seen, Cvstos doesn't need to improve its finishing or construction, rather it needs to maintain it. Of course it can be better, think Patek or Chopard LUC, but that is the nth degree of mass produced fine fi...
That's some great...
By: DRMW : December 24th, 2008-19:23
Hello SJX, That's some great pics if you took them with only the restaurant lighting! Very impressive. You must be taking lessons from AnthonyT as he does some amazing photos with the worst possible lighting conditions! Thanks for the scoop on Cvstos! Hap...
curious, Art...
By: ThomasM : December 24th, 2008-12:18
can you be a little more specific about "genre?" With G-F, I'm pretty sure you mean "multi-axis tourbillon" (and if so, in fact, they are the first, even if not by brand; guess who was responsible for the original FM MAT?...) but I'm not sure what you mea...
At least one progenitor!
By: Gary G : December 25th, 2008-20:36
I for one, still find it cool that after 500 years of watches, KV was the first one to come up with the idea of a decimal repeater -- would love to know of an earlier example, but I'm not aware of one. Then there's Volker and the hard linkage of seconds h...
Thanks, Thomas
By: Gary G : December 25th, 2008-21:42
It's one of those elegant ideas that in retrospect seems so obvious that I'd be interested in learning more if future events permit. In the meanitme, all the best wishes for your health and happiness -- I'm sure that you know that many people, myself incl...
Talking design
By: Geo : December 24th, 2008-14:04
Hi Thomas, Art, In my original post I was only talking design, not mechanics/movements and I mentioned that line of companies, only because of their incredible start from scratch with original ideas, not borrowed from other established companies. (This ha...
to be clear, Geo...
By: ThomasM : December 25th, 2008-01:57
look, I'm not really interested in having this discussion "get heated" (I sense a little "heat" in your last reply) - for me, the issue in this sub-thread is origin of idea, and motivation. I see a clear difference between AP engaging Gerald Genta (and ot...
If I may...
By: SJX : December 25th, 2008-02:37
What I understand Thomas to be saying is the difference between the examples. AP, Cartier et al hired Gerald Genta to design watches for them. Now they make Genta's designs under their own label but the public is fully aware Gerald Genta designed the watc...
"Real" inspiration
By: SJX : December 24th, 2008-19:05
That is an even bigger can of worms TM. Genta designed the RO, Ingenieur, Nautilus and 222, the RO was launched first but is it truly the original? I don't know, but Genta could have well penned the Nautilus a few years before. Of course this is random sp...
Wow, Thomas
By: amanico : December 25th, 2008-02:29
I say nothing, I'm just enjoying a lot your conversation with Geo and SJX, and all our other Purists Fellows... Really enjoyable, rich ,and captivating discussion, here. I'm really impressed, Thomas, and this makes me regret you live so far from France! W...
Mon plaisir, mon ami...
By: ThomasM : December 25th, 2008-02:40
and hopefully, we can realize that dream for both of us soon, hopefully accompanied by a nice Chablis or Quart de Charmes (well, maybe not, too sweet...okay, certain vintages only...) with a nice overflowing Plat du Roi of seafood... ;-) I really miss the...
Significance and copycats
By: SJX : December 24th, 2008-19:01
Hi Art, As I wrote in my original post, significance and copycats and not mutually exclusive. There are hordes of folk who will insist the Nautilus and Ingenieur are significant watches, although it can be argued that both are copycats of the Royal Oak. B...
RM copy
By: monochrome : December 25th, 2008-01:04
I really don't understand most part of the discussion here... let me explain why... the first time i saw a Cvstos i immediately thought of Richard Mille. When i look at most Cvstos models this thought comes up again... so IMHO Cvstos just makes name and f...