Bcos there were only so many movements he found...

Apr 15, 2020,12:17 PM
 

the Peseaux observatory caliber 260 was created for observatory trials and never commercially produced. 

Kari found those unused movements, bought them & re-finished to fit it to his case.

Kari took off the entire original escapement and inserted his balance wheel, hairspring, and escape mechanism.


If I recollect well, he didn’t have the dial mfg at that time. He used to have it done by Parmigiani.


Hope it helps.


Best,

Mahesh.,

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"Time Only"....the Finale

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-18:46
Over the past couple of days, I posted several threads of my timepieces categorized by - Tourbillon - Perpetual Calendars - Chronographs - Travler/GMT - Moon phases - Power Reserve Here are the rest of my watches: For the purpose of this post, 'Time Only'...  
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Thank you for the incredible series this week🙏 [nt]

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : April 6th, 2020-18:55
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My pleasure indeed :) [nt]

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:03
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Sam thank you so much for your posts this week

 
 By: sham1 : April 6th, 2020-18:56
and as a lover of time only watches, I had to go through your post twice to ogle at your remarkable collection. But for me, one watch stood head and shoulders above the rest - the Patek Philippe with the wood marquetry dial. It is wood marquetry or am I h... 
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Yes Sham

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:03
This watch features marquetry art and the dial is made up of 166 pieces of wood. If you visit the top floor of the Patek Salon (where all the grand complications are displayed), there is a "painting" made up of marguetry art. I will send you a picture whe... 
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The lady is the consultant at the salon looking after me. She is very pleasant and extremely knowledgeable....

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:15
The "paintings' behind us are the marquetry art ...  
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And if I may politely say so Sam

 
 By: sham1 : April 6th, 2020-21:30
she is also stunning!! This is what I call the Patek experience!
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Thanks Sam!

 
 By: sham1 : April 6th, 2020-21:27
I am in awe of the Patek handicrafts. One day, one day
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Amazing collection. I think you would need to rent a warehouse to do a full SOTC picture 😀 [nt]

 
 By: vitalsigns : April 6th, 2020-19:35
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Hehe...not exactly

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:41
Here is a group picture, taken a few months back, so not really up-to-date ...  
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I really like your ten-watch boxes. Are those made by Underwood of London?

 
 By: NickO : April 6th, 2020-19:56
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Very good

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:09
Yes, the big boxes are made by Underwood and the smaller ones Giobagnara (Italian)
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You have a most thoughtful and considered collection, Sam

 
 By: NickO : April 6th, 2020-20:16
That truly does justice to the very best of modern horology. I salute you, Sir, and thank you for sharing these fantastic watches with us over the past few days. NickO
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You are very kind

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:49
Thank you for the nice words
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Thanks again Sam, another great lineup! Within this remarkable group, my vote needs to go towards your 5089G-020, which I believe is the third ever that I see in the wild!

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2020-19:40
Here's my version, that I received in 2015. Is it still in your collection? Thanks again for a superb and impressive series of watches this past week! Enjoy. ...  
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Yes, it is still with me.

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:44
Don't think I will ever part with it...
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👍👍🥂 [nt]

 
 By: FabR : April 6th, 2020-19:46
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Well, I think my favorite in this selection is the Patek Philippe, I can only imagine how hard it should be to realize the dial.

 
 By: Tyo : April 6th, 2020-19:46
Do you mind me asking you who is the artist behind the Lang & Heyne Friedrich II. I’ve noticed this painting a couple of time behind your wristshorts. I can hardly name who is or at least from who it’s a “homage” it sounds like a Miro to me. Sorry to be s... 
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I think you asked me the same question before

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-19:51
the answer is - it is the work of a famous contemporary Chinese painter "Wu Guanzhong". He was very much influenced by the impressionists, Fauvism and Chinese calligraphy... You can Google to see his work.
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Excellent thank you. I’ll google it

 
 By: Tyo : April 6th, 2020-19:56
It wasn’t me, I make a quick search and a fellow purist asked you that same question and thought about Miro too.
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Sorry for the mix up

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:08
I assumed erroneously it was the same person.... :P Anyway, I love Wu Guanzhong's work.
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No problem. I support a local artist who is a huge fan of Zao Wou Ki

 
 By: Tyo : April 6th, 2020-20:15
I attended one exhibition of his works in Paris back in 2018 at The Museum of Modern Art. This is by far one of the best-know Chinese artist I know, sorry about that, something I have to improve.
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Although I am not a big fan of Zhao Wuji

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:48
His works fetch incredible prices at auctions
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Thank you for sharing your collection!

 
 By: als1678 : April 6th, 2020-19:56
Really have been looking towards the new installments, pity that is now over. But sometimes even the best shows must end! I think when it comes to tv the British understand that better than the americans I love the fact that your collection is diverse yet... 
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Like watching a TV series?

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:10
I love them too, and movies, of course.... Thank you for the nice words about the collection.
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Absolutely incredible collection! [nt]

 
 By: jleno : April 6th, 2020-20:05
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Truly phenomenal collection. Thank you for sharing.

 
 By: M4 : April 6th, 2020-20:18
Best wishes to you. M4
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It has been a most interesting

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-20:51
horological journey for me over the years...
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Amazing! I have to be the person who asks which are your favorite and why?

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 6th, 2020-20:55
Maybe I should ask your top 3 time-only watches and what puts them over the others for you and how those 3 match up to each other? Thanks!
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All categories considered, my favourites are

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-21:17
- 1815 PC Rattrapante HWK - Roger Smith Series 2 - FPJ titanium Tourbillon - Voutilainen Observatoire - Laurent Ferrier Galet Tourbillon - Lang & Heyne monopush chronograph - 1815 Tourbillon HWK I guess I can go on and on.... The reasons are quite evident... 
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The Lang & Heyne is an interesting one!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : April 7th, 2020-14:39
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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I have always liked their creations

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-19:02
dating back some 20 years ago..... My first one was the Friedrich August I. Love those Louis XV hands
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Thank you! I’ve enjoyed your posts over the last week. The Credor has always impressed me—that porcelain dial!

 
 By: Obeezy : April 6th, 2020-20:59
I like the Kari, of course the Patek that others have commented on and I could continue, but I will cease. All good things must come to an end, but I will miss your thematic posts. Take care and thank you for sharing your marvelous collection!
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Thank you

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-21:20
I had to wait 9 months for the Eichi II but I just saw a brand new one at the AD the other day. They make 25 pieces a year on this model. I guess business must be slow these days....
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RG prestige😍😍😍

 
 By: Lankysudanese : April 6th, 2020-21:19
Impressive collection. Have you ever considered opening a horological museum? You should. What’s next on your list? How do you offload your pieces? To reputable watch dealers, or to other collectors? I’m hoping that it’s the latter. Thanks again for makin... 
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A museum....that's very flattering...no way

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-23:07
As for off-loading, based on my experience, the options are: 1. sell it to a friend. That way, there is no intermediary asking for a cut and you know that your once-treasured timepiece is in good hands. The downside is that you often have to negotiate wit... 
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I truly appreciate the prompt, detailed and informative response.

 
 By: Lankysudanese : April 6th, 2020-23:44
...and don’t give him on the museum idea. It’ll allow people with simpler means to enjoy your lovely timepieces so, in a way, you are giving back. You can even use it as a tax write-off😝 I’ll try to drum up some other reasons to convince you 😁 ... 
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I counted like 30-40 of my grail or exit watches in you group photo 👏🏻😂

 
 By: Clueless_Collector : April 6th, 2020-22:16
Lock me up in a cell with these watches and I’m not complaining. Great and awesome dream collection. Huge congrats to you to be so fortunate 👍🏻
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Trust me

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-23:11
There is no such thing as an exit I bought the 1815 PC Rattrapante HWK , I thought it might be my exit watch but no, it only raised the bar for my next acquisition - you become more selective (which is good). Human desire is insatiable...
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Huge thanks again Sam for sharing with us your incredible collection

 
 By: Mike H : April 6th, 2020-23:25
All marvellous pieces and the photos of them are not less splendid. I am sure it took you hell of a time to sort, organise, and gather them for this series of posts. You have a fantastic collection and we are very lucky and thankful that you shared all th... 
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You are so kind Mike

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-00:04
By now you may have discovered that a fair portion of my watches are from independent watchmakers. And I almost forgot about this one... ...  
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Na come on you cannot forget this one, it is unforgettable !

 
 By: Mike H : April 7th, 2020-00:30
You put me « Upside Down » with your collection 😍😍😍 And yes of course I saw very well you are fond of Indies too just like many of us here 😉 I am totally amazed by the number of master pieces you have, you have a delicious taste 👌👌
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LOL [nt]

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-01:08
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That's a killer collection you have, Sam. Wonderful. Among all the marvels you posted above, there is one which made me smile, the Panerai Independent, PAM 80.

 
 By: amanico : April 6th, 2020-23:37
You should post more pictures of this one in our Panerai Forum. It brings back to so many good memories. I loved when Panerai used some cool outsourced movements for their watches. It was a great era. Chezard movement, if I am right? Best, my friend. Nico... 
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Coming from you Nico it is reassuring

 
 By: samwan : April 6th, 2020-23:55
Yes, it has a Chezard movement. I also know that you have a soft spot for vintage Panerais. Unfortunately I cannot find another nice picture of the PAM 80 in the archives. Here is one in a different strap .... ...  
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You still have it? [nt]

 
 By: amanico : April 7th, 2020-00:00
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Yes, still with me

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-00:05
I love it. Won't part with it....
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Great. Could you take some fresh pictures and post them? [nt]

 
 By: amanico : April 7th, 2020-00:06
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Okay. Will try my best with the smart phone. Give me time [nt]

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-00:15
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Great watches! How do you like the cartier santos dumont skeleton? I‘m thinking about it a lot.

 
 By: nafetS : April 7th, 2020-00:29
I‘d also love to hear more about your experience with Lang & Heyne, as you own (or owned) quite a few.
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I bought the Cartier Santos-Dumont to match the tuxedo I wore on my son's wedding day some 9 years ago

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-01:07
Unfortunately I parted with it a few years later - it is a bit chunky on my small wrist as a dress watch. Worse, because of the thickness, it scratches the cuff of the shirts from time to time. I am a retired person and a dress watch is not of much use to... 
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Thank you. What could be the real Dealbreaker is the thickness you've described. I like thin watches, especially true for dress watches. I wasn't aware it's chunky. [nt]

 
 By: nafetS : April 7th, 2020-01:35
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In that case, you may wish to consider

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-02:06
Tank Louis Cartier Sapphire Skeleton instead. It was introduced in 2014.
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That is the most amazing collection I've seen. Wow.

 
 By: Hulk : April 7th, 2020-02:12
I don't think I've ever seen many pieces like those in all the watch shops I've visited over the years. A privilege to see. Great photo shots too. Did you ever buy any without already having tried them on? Cheers S
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Of course I have

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-02:26
The Roger Smith for example I had to commission without seeing the real effect of the engraving. The Lange 1815 PC Rattrapante HWK is only limited to 20 pieces and when I decided to hunt one down, I had to make a commitment before seeing the real thing (a... 
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KV for me...colour is fantadtic [nt]

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : April 7th, 2020-02:42
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Yes, I chose the color/metal/index combo

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-02:55
over 10 years ago and still love it today...
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Why is it LE as it looks like standard observatoire? Cheers [nt]

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : April 7th, 2020-04:13
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I believe a few dozen were made

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-04:38
But because they are all commissioned, each one is more or less unique. But I have no idea why that is imprinted on the case.
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Interesting ....well every KV is unique but the 28 all have serial numbers. Maybe another forum

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : April 7th, 2020-06:19
Member knows the answer,
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Bcos there were only so many movements he found...

 
 By: mahesh : April 15th, 2020-12:17
the Peseaux observatory caliber 260 was created for observatory trials and never commercially produced. Kari found those unused movements, bought them & re-finished to fit it to his case. Kari took off the entire original escapement and inserted his balan... 
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not the same movement...details below - hope it helps.

 
 By: mahesh : April 15th, 2020-12:24
Best, mahesh.,
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Good to know. It's seems you never went for any vintage at all? [nt]

 
 By: Hulk : April 7th, 2020-03:58
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I am not knowledgeable of vintages

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-04:01
And may make silly decisions
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Thank you for sharing your amazing collection!

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 7th, 2020-04:27
You put a smile on my face as I take my coffee and enjoy your post before starting my day in my home office!
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Glad you enjoyed the posts 😊

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-04:40
Aren't we all confined to our home offices....
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thank you for sharing

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : April 7th, 2020-04:45
Really love your collection (all series), from this post the KV sings to me and the ALS PLM. I also appreciate seeing all the L and H pieces as we don't see them often. Wear in good health.
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As you can tell

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-04:53
My tastes are really traditional. Thanks for your appreciation. L & H makes about 50 watches a year so may not be represented in all markets...
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Wow!! Such an awesome and amazing collection you got there!!!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : April 7th, 2020-07:03
I love the Moritz Grossman, the Lang and Heyne, and ofc, the other indies you have there!! GReat collection
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Yes, I reckon some 20-30% of my watches

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-07:06
Are from independent watchmakers...
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I am a sucker for Indies and so I always pick them as my fav but I do have a soft spot for Breguet, Credor, Audemar Piguet (not the royla oak) Richard Mille (only the BonBon collection), and others

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : April 7th, 2020-07:11
If you are ever bored of them and want to "donate" them to a "starving student" like yours truly, please do not hestitate to call me :P Just joking. In all seriousness, what is next on your list of indies to buy?
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I don't have a next Indie target

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-07:59
My next target is the Patek 5231J
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That is a great choice!!

 
 By: Spencer Karrington : April 11th, 2020-11:38
When you pick your next indie, please share!!! I would love to see it
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You obviously have an amazing, over the top collection of which

 
 By: Thomas_3 : April 7th, 2020-08:02
you should be very proud of. This begs one question, how can you possibly give them all wrist time and how on earth can you keep track and maintenance them all?
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Hehe...I use a spread sheet [nt]

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-19:03
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The Georg movement! [nt]

 
 By: LK : April 7th, 2020-09:03
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These time only watchs are a small subset of your collection?? (nt)

 
 By: Ronald Held : April 7th, 2020-13:12
NT
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Well....feel free to check the other threads

 
 By: samwan : April 7th, 2020-18:58
I mentioned at beginning of the post. Also in the Horological Meandering Forum.
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What a series and what a finale! Superb!

 
 By: Seeks : April 8th, 2020-01:02
So many GRAILS in this collection that you have share with u in these 7 days! Be safe and stay healthy !
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Thanks. Look forward to

 
 By: samwan : April 8th, 2020-01:53
Getting together again after the epidemic... Stay well.. Sam
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You must hsve such an impression collection that..

 
 By: Ronald Held : April 8th, 2020-12:34
It takes decades to acquire!
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You hit it on the head....

 
 By: samwan : April 8th, 2020-18:22
Yes, it took over 10 years to build and it has been a great learning process for me. Many ups and downs along the way
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+1!! (nt)

 
 By: Ronald Held : April 9th, 2020-12:58
NT
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Sam, what a fantastic and expansive collection!

 
 By: Tim Jackson : April 8th, 2020-10:06
That you chose to end with the Time Only group sends a strong message of maturity in your collection. Appreciate you taking the time to share such stunning pieces this week and I thoroughly enjoyed viewing so many top artisanal Independent watchmakers wor... 
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You have been very kind Tim

 
 By: samwan : April 8th, 2020-18:21
Yes, I prefer Time Only watches. As I have always said, my tastes are very traditional so the transformer type of novelties are not for me :P
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I will post some interesting statistics here

 
 By: samwan : April 8th, 2020-18:34
At stop press, the number of members browsing the respective threads are: Time only 2,362 Perpetual Calendars 1,478 Chronographs 1,352 Tourbillons 1,264 Power Reserve 895 Traveler/GMT 611 Moonphase 533 While the figures reflect how interesting the time pi... 
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If you will alllow a contrary opinion, Sam, it may well be the post-count of the final installment . . .

 
 By: Dr No : April 9th, 2020-13:46
. . . is more an indication of audience preparation than mere popularity. ;-) For my part, I would be happy with the RS as a collection of one.
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You certainly have a point :) [nt]

 
 By: samwan : April 9th, 2020-17:49
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You have an absolutely special collection; one of the finest I have seen. Thank you SO much for spending as much time as you have sharing it with us.

 
 By: edtonkin : April 9th, 2020-13:03
You have a captive audience here who I can most assuredly say appreciate your posts. I wish you well and much enjoyment with your collection and thank you again for allowing us to enjoy it too.
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It took me this long to reply...

 
 By: NT931 : April 14th, 2020-17:16
As I’m still recovering from the the highly-pleasurable sensory overload of these lovely pictures. What an incredible series of wonderfully-taken pictures, and I learned a lot as a novice fan of time-only watches. Especially the marquetry dial, what a dia... 
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Thank you for the nice compliment

 
 By: samwan : April 15th, 2020-08:17
My photographer friend will be very pleased.
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The Pam 80

 
 By: Larry Seiden : April 15th, 2020-09:52
Incredible collection yet I was most impressed that you have a Pam 80! That is a true grail.
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Thanks.

 
 By: samwan : April 16th, 2020-00:29
I got the PAM 80 from a good friend
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Breathtaking collection!

 
 By: th.gr.ga : August 3rd, 2020-00:18
So many personal grails in this group. From a pure movement perspective, I'd have to go with the L&H Georg. For the whole package, the choice becomes harder. Please post photos of the Day-Night Cartier as well! It's such a great watch.
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thanks for the compliment

 
 By: samwan : August 3rd, 2020-20:04
There you go ...  
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Sigh - a perfect watch!

 
 By: th.gr.ga : August 4th, 2020-12:29
Thank you for indulging me, Sir.
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Wow. I too am drawn to time-only watches, and there are some of the best....

 
 By: darmatgre-1 : August 4th, 2020-15:14
thanks for a wonderful post. Darren
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