I agree. i remember in 1994 in LA with the opposite party in power, carjackings were rampant.

Sep 04, 2022,15:40 PM
 

When a few people were killed the police ramped up the pressure on chop shops and the like. Now the crime is watch theft/muggings, and the reasons are complex. Immigration, loss of jobs, social media glamorizing watches, Rolex real or imagined shortage which ramped up prices, the haves vs have nots, the media fear machine, the fact that police weren't really caring that much about a few watches being stolen etc etc. Catching a few criminals probably isn't the answer, but instead drying up the market or distribution of the stolen watches is what needs to happen. Who's behind it, where are they going, etc. It certainly isn't the neighborhood pawn shops like in the past.
This is happening all over the world, not just California.

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How Police Are Using Technology To Catch Rolex Robbers

 
 By: patrick_y : September 3rd, 2022-19:27
"Rolex Robbers" is the new term I'm using to denote watch thieves. And while Rolex watches aren't the exclusive watches being stolen, it is probably one of the more popular ones being stolen. Foster City, a city in California's San Francisco Bay Area and ...  

it really is like the Wild West out there

 
 By: j.jota : September 3rd, 2022-19:31
stay safe & be smart everyone +++ I certainly am not going to stop wearing my watches out in public, so the crooks can go F' themselves - time to start packing heat

Politics aside...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 3rd, 2022-19:44
Can't pack heat in the state of California without a permit. And... The California State Attorney General in some incredibly weird move, actually released a list of all the names and addresses of citizens with the special "concealed weapons permit" in the... 

I could be wrong but I think technically in CA a LTC is a matter of public record so the list has always been there, just not publicized. Not saying it's right, but more that it's not arbitrary release of records but a consistent anti-gun mentality.

 
 By: Fastwong : September 3rd, 2022-20:31
It equates having an LTC with being a sex offender or some other public safety hazard that requires that LTC holders be part of the public record. Also want to leave politics out of it but it is pretty nuts to equate the two. The supreme court in NY just ... 

There's a public list and a secret list...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 3rd, 2022-21:16
In CA there's a public list and a "discreet list" to my knowledge. But I am really not an expert on this subject, so to say anymore would really be out of my depth. Agreed. Interesting and strange times for sure!

I'm grateful....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 3rd, 2022-22:48
to not have yet been on that list despite having applied for a ccw back at the end of March, I'm expecting to hear back from the Sheriff's department this month! With that said, the California Bureau of Security and Investigative Services, to my sincere a...  

Oh man, I need a refresher course on my equipment...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-03:54
PTZ, remote access, this user interface isn't good for non professionals.

Exactly....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 4th, 2022-06:12
You are clearly well versed in the fundamentals since you know what you are speaking of . Anyway, he has invested hundreds of thousands just into the systems that go into running this office which I work out of the majority of the time. Obviously, he owns... 

I don't even know how to reset the email warning reports...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-17:15
And there are some bugs in the software. Upon a system reset, I have to go in and toggle off and toggle back on certain settings. Obviously the operating system of these devices weren't designed very well. Hopefully a better system comes one day! Good luc... 

Thanks Patrick!

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 4th, 2022-18:17

You know what else you can’t do in our lovely state???

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : September 4th, 2022-06:11
Buy a freaking wood rubber band gun with an orange nozzle🙅‍♂️. I could more easily buy A REAL GUN than this wood toy… go figure. ...  

Hadn't thought of that!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-17:11

I am of two minds on this...

 
 By: mdg : September 3rd, 2022-19:48
...as I abhor the surveillance state...

I agree...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 3rd, 2022-21:19
Police tracking your every move. At least this good thing came out of the Big Brother concept!

Indeed....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 3rd, 2022-22:51
Orwellian environment no doubt about it....

Come on....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 4th, 2022-06:14
that's blind prejudice . Criminals come in all shapes and forms, from everywhere in the world ....

Possibly. Part of it's hype. Part of it is the fact that there are a lot of illegitimate dealers willing to move stolen Rolexes...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-17:10
Low level thieves only get a tiny fraction of the value for what they steal. There are fences and middlemen, all of whom get a cut. Furthermore, low level thieves are often in need of money immediately. And with the rush, they can't get a significant valu... 

Can't say I'm an expert witness in that regard...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 5th, 2022-03:06
Can't say that I have work experience in fencing stolen watches. So I can't say I'm an expert in that regard! And hopefully I never will be!

Possibly!

 
 By: patrick_y : September 6th, 2022-01:11
It's also a lot of unscrupulous dealers. It's in the industry news that some dealers get caught with multiple stolen watches. These dealers have been in the Los Angeles area in the past, Miami, and Diamond District of New York City.

Sad 😭 but true

 
 By: Ping.Timeout : September 6th, 2022-04:00

Watch theft is the new hype!

 
 By: ZSHSZ : September 4th, 2022-12:04
Watches and wallets were stolen for decades(my dad got mugged in the ‘70s in Italy), it’s not a new phenomenon, however being picked up by the media and social media, it seems to create a new hype. But the greatest stupidity is explaining in details how i... 

I agree. i remember in 1994 in LA with the opposite party in power, carjackings were rampant.

 
 By: Blansky : September 4th, 2022-15:40
When a few people were killed the police ramped up the pressure on chop shops and the like. Now the crime is watch theft/muggings, and the reasons are complex. Immigration, loss of jobs, social media glamorizing watches, Rolex real or imagined shortage wh... 

Maybe the real solution is that Rolex needs to create a better system?

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-17:18
For instance, Apple, created Find My iPhone. And made it harder for thieves to reset iPhones and wipe iPhone memories. Thus, making the phone kind of useless and not able to be sold if you had it password protected. Maybe Rolex needs to have a published o... 

That would be....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 4th, 2022-18:21
an excellent idea, I believe! Cheers, Filip

I wonder what Rolex is thinking in their meetings...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-20:17
Have they identified the problem and solutions? Or are they aware of the problem and not aware of any good fixes.

I can't imagine them....

 
 By: InHavenPro : September 4th, 2022-23:34
being so daft as to not be cognizant of the issues at hand.... ??

Come on, A watch company needs nothing else just make watches, and law enforcement should enforce the law.

 
 By: ZSHSZ : September 4th, 2022-21:18
Actually, Rolex has a database for stolen watches for decades, so any stolen watch that goes in for service gets confiscated. What else should Rolex do, sell a security guard with the watch? Furthermore not just Rolex gets stolen, lots of RM’s, Pateks and... 

I don't think there's an easy solution...

 
 By: patrick_y : September 4th, 2022-23:26
But you're right. Rolex's core competency is making watches. And they're so good at that - that's why the watches are desirable. And that's why the thieves are targeting them.