Interesting and thorough post. Glad to read that Breguet responded seriously to your questions.

Oct 14, 2022,17:54 PM
 

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WPS Exclusive! Breguet Debunks Allegations That Its Finishing Has Changed! What do _You_ think about this?

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-16:20
This is a story about following up on a claim on the internet and it's also a story of folks at Breguet taking seriously a collector's concerns and doing their best to give a satisfying answer to questions. It was a very positive experience and I hope we ...  

You're welcome! I hope there is a Breguet in your future as well!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:11
Any you have an eye on?

Something like this would suffice.

 
 By: BigAppleBill : October 14th, 2022-21:30
...  

Yes, good taste!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-21:45

Excellent detective work, you’ve done a great service to the brand and to those who own one…

 
 By: oyster case : October 14th, 2022-17:32
I have never owned a Breguet but would love to own that 5177 of yours!

Thank you! It's a joy to own and wear.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:12

Gracias!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:12

I think this is a very ME style post, so I APPROVE! Not that you needed my approval :)

 
 By: BigFatPauli : October 14th, 2022-17:48
Fantastic post and, honestly, I am really THRILLED at how Breguet handled this (and they have not changed their standards). Well done and doing the digging and homework. I really respect this kind of behaviour, which is oh so rare in the world. Bravo!!!

You were there in spirit.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:19
The exorcist assures me that you're gone now! :P I appreciate it! I was very happy with Breguet's response, too.

HAHA!! :)

 
 By: BigFatPauli : October 14th, 2022-18:53

Ooh, that's a nice classique!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:13

Thanks, I was happy they responded so well.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-18:14

Many thanks!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-20:59

I will come out of retirement and say the following and then retire again.

 
 By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : October 14th, 2022-19:29
if this has made them raise their game then great. They have been a sorely overlooked brand for a long time previously displaying much hidden workmanship and for whom I have a soft spot. This despite not playing a harpsichord, nor enjoying the peek of an ... 

wow... good to read you mon ami.

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 14th, 2022-19:40
Ah Dr T, Always such a gentlemen. Bien joué Sorely missed. R

“Members of this formerly illustrious place…”

 
 By: oyster case : October 14th, 2022-19:47
Hahaha, as opposed to your current milieu, if you are the original poster of the Breguet “scoop”, IG? 😂

Yup.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-20:53

Just to be clear, the blue dial is new to the last two years, therefore, my watch cannot be from some bygone era. And your claim is debunked.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 14th, 2022-20:57
You may not like Breguet's finishing. That, with your great experience, is your choice. However, your specific and objective claim that Breguet has changed the finishing on an existing model in production, the 5177, is false. Best practices would be to ad... 

Not correct and…

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 15th, 2022-08:16
The blue5177 was in the market three and half years ago. You should be playing the ball not the man. Ad hominem comments are not acceptable in this forum. Cheerleading and storytelling from the brand are not functional evidence. The impartial 3rd party ey... 

Thanks, but the claim is debunked.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-13:59
Do you understand why Tim's attempt to say that my 5177 blue enamel is somehow older than an imaginary change in finishing is not valid? I can explain it if you can't figure it out, but the answer is in my original post. It has to do with evidence he trie... 

Far from debunked actually

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 15th, 2022-15:33
The current approach to debunk is actually as flawed as to ask an accused if they committed the crime. "I asked Breguet and they said nothing’s changed”…. The best outcome should be that Breguet considers there may have been a slip up and pieces went out ... 

You have it backwards

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-17:34
A former member who left in a huff has made several claims. And you've chosen the wrong one, naturally. Did you read the original post in this thread? On IG, he claimed to inspect a single watch, that's now increased to two watches, great. It's not the is... 

Oh dear.

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 15th, 2022-18:08

Breguet is a fantastic brand

 
 By: andrea~ : October 14th, 2022-20:24
I wish them more success, it's much deserved.

Amazing post🙏

 
 By: xxn : October 15th, 2022-04:55
breguet needs some form of revival though

Agreed!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-13:45

Thank you Dr Tabby for taking this seriously and asked Breguet directly for the answer!

 
 By: joenghenry : October 15th, 2022-07:22
My response will be...... go get a 5177 blue enamel dial while it's still available at retails. Best, Henry

It's a lovely watch for sure!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-13:45

Big thanks for posting..

 
 By: Filip : October 15th, 2022-09:03
.. If somebody asked me about about actual finishing of the basic Breguet movements I would say, hmm I remember that they lowered quality of some finishings, there was something about it at forum 😢 That is how myths are born.

Right, it seemed worth following up on!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-13:44

Thank you for this post.

 
 By: jlux : October 15th, 2022-09:14
Being a big fan of the Breguet watches this was very informative and also highlights the professional attitude of the brand towards its customers ...and its standards.

You're welcome!

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 15th, 2022-13:44
I, too, was heartened by Breguet's care in their response, as well as their commitment to their standards.

5177 serial #s with no visible internal angles

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 23rd, 2022-14:37
2615BQ (Breguet's own video) 2625BQ 1242 BX 1729AQ

Breguet videos are from prototype models, as someone who read the opening post would know.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 25th, 2022-18:55
Here's a photo of a blue enamel 5177bb, mine. It has interior angles and, obviously to an acute observer, post-dates the video Tim used for a screenshot which uses a prototype model and came out with the introduction of the blue enamel 5177. I'm not sure ...  

Please stop. this is not a valid line of 'argument'

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 25th, 2022-20:26
perhaps if scientifically trained you would understand. I wonder if the mindset you require to execute your magic day job clouds your judgement. Not only that you are trying to use quite objectionable subtly disguised ad hominem attacks on a venerated for... 

I confess with my magic day job (a line I will use now!) I have no idea why the years-past former owner of WPS would be an arbiter of anything.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : October 25th, 2022-23:47
I have met Dr Mao, and I think he'd be entertained. Tim's argument is poor, it's simple (to be fair, it's literally an IG post), and it's been debunked with evidence that includes pictures. I don't think the purpose of WPS is to revere former members. WPS...