patrick_y
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I'd do BMW or a GTI or a R32.
In the USA we have a Golf GTI (GTI is similar to the GTD in petrol format) or a Golf "R" which is a high performance AWD version of the hot hatch.
The ZF 8 speed auto is fantastic. Best automatic torque converter transmission I've ever driven. How is the VW DSG transmission reliability after several years?
The BMW 1 series also has a tiny trunk. Which is really annoying when you're doing your travels or shopping. In addition to the rapid depreciation you mentioned.
How much more of a financial premium is the BMW 1 series over the GTD? I'd personally get the BMW.
How big is a BMW 320d sedan a further big gap in price compared to the 120d? Try the 320d that F30 chassis is simply to die for. So comfortable, yet undeniably sporty, even with the 17-inch wheels with the H rated non low profile tires, it's still a tremendous amount of fun. In the USA we have the "328i" 240 hp petrol I4 which is so good on the drive through the mountain to a certain ocean beach that I simply say, "A Porsche is almost not necessary."
That's a hard decision between the GTD and the 120d. Here in the USA we don't have the 1-series BMW hatchbacks. So I've never really seen one nor driven one. Just what I've seen in Europe. But the VW Golf is a good car. I'd be very happy to own either the GTD or 120d. I have a feeling the GTD is going to be larger and more practical, because I recall seeing the 120d in Europe and saw that it couldn't hold more than 3 bags of groceries. In the US, we have a store called COSTCO (think even more extreme than CARREFOUR warehouse stores) which is a "buy in bulk" retailer and the 120d would probably not be able to fit a typical family of four's COSTCO shopping.
Really difficult decision, I wouldn't know what to do...
I kinda already made up my mind BUT ...
... i will ask this anyway: Which car you guys think could be the perfect addition to my 201 hp Renaultsport Clio RS ? The keeper: My current Clio RS which i will certainly keep. Frontwheeldrive - 201 hp - 215 Nm high revving petrol engine. Option 1: VW G...
The fun would commend the BMW with the rear wheels.
But the VW is more practical, with its front Wheel drive. Try to drive the BMW when it snows... ;) Best, nicolas
BMW-VW 1-0
The VW might be more practical .. and is IMO better looking, especially in GTD/GTI trim ... BMW-VW 1-0 Bim :-)
I totally love the Golf....
BMW is also nice , but have you considered Mercedes A-class . I looked at it few years ago and It looks very promising. Regards Edward
BMW-VW 1-1
A friend of mine has the new A250 sport with the 2 litre petrol engine producing 211 hp ... great looking car but i'm not real a Mercedes-fan ... and it's already difficult choosing between the Golf and the BMW :-) Bim
While the BMW is probably great to drive...
i keep staring at the VW. i'm sure it's no slouch :-)
Ex-aequo .. 2-2
Yes, i also keep staring at that VW-nose .. And i also am pretty convinced it's no slouch .. 0-62 mph is 7.5 for the Golf but a whopping 7.0 for the Beemer, that says a lot ... about the Beemer. I once tried the heavier 420d with 184 hp ... and it was alr...
You already have
a front wheel drive car. So would go BMW. My wife had the 130i, wonderful car to drive. But as aid before, extremely tricky on snow. A though choise. Does the Golf has the GTI seats? Also what about a Scirocco GTD? Not practical enough? I'm sure you'll ma...
BMW-VW 3-2
:-) You're right Dirk, i should go for the Beemer .. and it doesn't snow a lot here ... i have enough FWD cars equipped with snow tires. GTD has the GTI seats but the red (in the GTI) is grey ... very cool seats i must say. However the new sportseats in t...
Petrol also offcourse ..
But i didnt know it also had the GTD 184 engine instead of that lousy 140 hp diesel i have in my Audi. It has to be diesel this time, and Van-conversion which is not possible on the Scirocco ... Anyway, i am going for the 120d all the way ! BimmerBim
Without the engine-tuning ...
.. the BMW will outrun anything because of the driver ;-) ... i'm going to leave it as it is .. i think ... . Anyway, even a 204 hp 123diesel couldn't outrun my Clio at the racetrack ... so i feel no need to get the power up to let's say 220-230 hp ... . ...
The VW is definitely more sporty looking IMO
I'd get 1" larger rims for the BMW for a more aggressive look. Cheers, Anthony
There is another option...
If traction on snow is a regular headache, you could get a 120d with X-drive I.e. AWD. Depending on the country, BMW does pretty hefty discounts on X-drive, sometimes to the extent of it not costing anything at all. If you are not a regular caller at alpi...
BMW-VW 5-2
I know the BMW has some serious technical advantage over the Golf ... and the X-drive isn't expensive but being a BMW i would prefer right-wheel-drive :-) Bim
BMW-VW 4-2
Hi Anthony, i guess if i buy the BMW i will take the 'standard' 17 inch wheels (M-Sportspackage) .. i can always buy 18 inch BBS afterwards and use the originals for winter tires. Thanks Filip
An a BMW owner...
out of these two specific choices, I would say get the Golf. Unless we're talking xDrive of course... :-) But the Golf will be the more practical option anyway I think Bent
BMW-VW 5-3
The car i need to buy must be practical as it will become my workhorse next to my Clio and VW Transporter. My mother told me to get the Skoda Octavia with the same 184 hp engine as the Golf ... that would indeed be more practical .. but then i have my Tra...
Ah...so then
I guess there will soon be another Bimmer here? Anyway, the 8-speed gearbox is a step above "most others" I think and after all the newer RWD is probably very good. Oh, it's even people buying RWD cars up here in the icy North :-) There are very few days ...
Most probably :-)
Last time a drove a BMW it was more sideways than straightways :-) ... but since i will have to pay for these tyres myself ... i'll keep it civilized .. i hope :-) Bim(mer)
I'd do BMW or a GTI or a R32.
In the USA we have a Golf GTI (GTI is similar to the GTD in petrol format) or a Golf "R" which is a high performance AWD version of the hot hatch. The ZF 8 speed auto is fantastic. Best automatic torque converter transmission I've ever driven. How is the ...
BMW-VW 6-3
I looked at the GTI as well and even the R could be a viable option BUT this time i really need a diesel to save on fuel-cost ... this car will be written off in 5 years .. so :-) ... . A couple of months ago i tried the Golf R and wasn't really convinced...
get bmw
but new one facelifted 1 series, the current one is ugly with hideous headlamps ...
BMW-VW 7-3
Yes Uhren2 ... the facelift really looks cool compared to the 'old' one. A white one for me please :-) ... . But my friend has a pre-facelift blue one in stock that might be cheap .. X-drive as well and that gorgeous blue color ... and 18 inch rims .. and...
Get...
Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde my friend :) Between BMW and VW is there really choice Bimmer for Bim all the way ;) Best D
There is still the option...
Of a 125d. Which supplants the puny single exhaust for a more normal twin unit but more importantly has over 30bhp more for a comparable weight and no other vices (apart from a slightly higher price of entry) :)
125d
The 125d is quite a lot more expensive over here, the facelift is finally supplied with a double exhaust for the 120d and probably also for the lower entry models. And you can't yet order the 125d ... . The actual reason i buy this car is to save money, s...
I am sure you will be happy with the 120d
It does the job more than adequately even in the heavier 3 series, so it will work like a charm in the 1 series - the only country where you may find it lacking in power is Germany, for everything else it will be perfect :) And unlike higher up the rungs,...
I'm a little late to the party but.....
BMW all the way my friend...!!! Hope to catch up this year....hope you and the family are well..? Yours, Andy.
Better late than missing the party :-)
Hi Andy, i did the evil thing and ordered the 120d Sportshatch with sports-automatic 8-speed and M-package. That thing has 190 hp out of a 2 litre diesel ands 400 Nm torque :-). Well, i have to do the job with a decent car do i ? Hope you're doing well an...