Old list of mine

May 01, 2021,21:34 PM
 

When i made a list a few years ago.
It was a list of my first automatic watch diver.
Actually i bought in the past a quartz Seiko watch with diving aspirations, but in my view that is no real watch, but a time keeper with to much problems.
A long story short i made a list with in my view real automatics from established brands like IWC, UN, Omega, Blancpain, and i think the affordable brand Ball.
The UN chronometer diver in blue was a watch i love to look at magazines. I searched for good AD’s, grey dealers.
The price was varying from 5,5K to a 8K.
The expensively priced peaces where not far away, and guess the 5,5K and 6K at smoggy locations of smoggy grey dealers.
Than the Omega Seamaster 300 diver came above and i found a reliable grey dealer, and i took the plunge.
It was a good decision which i never regret.
Conclusion, i skipped the UN.
But i skipped also the IWC aquatimer and Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and the Ball which i forgot the name.

Now the UN is something when coincidence happen i wil buy if the price is nice at a good local AD.



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Improvement ideas for Ulysse Nardin

 
 By: MichaelC : April 27th, 2021-00:15
We recently had a good conversation regarding the current direction of a brand many of us have dear to the heart. It was rather unanimous that UN has come off the rails these past 10 years +/-. So, what are our ideas for improvement? Many agree the insist...  

I have a few suggestions.

 
 By: Horo_Traveler : April 27th, 2021-05:14
1. Agree they should get rid of the recent X/Square motif. 2. Add Arabic numerals as you suggest to the Marine 42mm line. 3. Make an executive decision to chop the Executive collection. Or, at least rename it to something more evocative of your clientele ... 

Some excellent suggestions here, couldn't agree more.

 
 By: Zilch : April 27th, 2021-09:36
UN is one of my favorite brands as well but I don't feel like spending any money on anything from their actual collection either. With that in mind and for a start (more to follow) I'd be careful with roman numerals on anything sportive (divers etc...). I...  

I generally agree, but I love both that bracelet and rubber strap with links.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:01
I prefer smooth rubber, not patterned, but that setup is superbly comfortable. I would further request they never, ever again stamp LIMITED EDITION or any other garbage on a strap link though. Nothing could be lamer, IMO. The UN name and logo are fine.

Well stated there.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-16:58
The marketing needs drastic improvement.

I think they have something with the Marine Torpilleur.

 
 By: amanico : April 27th, 2021-05:43
WE can start from there, put an enamel dial, no eaten 6, 42 mm case... Aaah, one thing, they launched a few good watches these last ten years, such as these Marine above, or this Marine Tourbillon below! Best, my friend. ...  

Deleting small second or...

 
 By: Weems@8 : April 27th, 2021-06:40
Ad some Marine Torpilleur with a big second hand. Their sea sail heritage of the old timing gauges is a separated seconds dial. Can they step off of it?

Old list of mine

 
 By: Weems@8 : May 1st, 2021-21:34
When i made a list a few years ago. It was a list of my first automatic watch diver. Actually i bought in the past a quartz Seiko watch with diving aspirations, but in my view that is no real watch, but a time keeper with to much problems. A long story sh... 

Proper suggestions.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:02
And yes, we should not be dismissive and pretend nothing good came out these past 10 years. Definitely a few winners in there!

Not only design

 
 By: Weems@8 : April 27th, 2021-06:47
I see the selling channels are a confusing machine. While competitors make all so easy, giving discount, a good service, quick delivery, UN maybe demands AD’s to keep prices high and scared potential customers off. If they could streamline the selling met... 

On the plus side, some of the MSRP levels are extremely acceptable.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:03
I would reference both the Marine Tourbillon and Freak titanium models. Beyond fair for what you receive.

Always slightly off

 
 By: m2 : April 27th, 2021-12:11
The freak and freakx are awesome IMO but most of their designs are slightly off to me.

I believe many would agree with you.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:04
This is part of the quirkiness of the brand.

I just looked at their website and was surprised at how they are still sticking to their bread and butter marine chronometer look...

 
 By: Blansky : April 27th, 2021-14:03
And I agree that there are too few Arabic numeral watches (although I don't like Arabics). But for me who have owned maybe 5 or 6 different UNs over the years is the fact that they now seem far too obscure. Their marketing doesn't seem to have ANY cool fa... 

I am lost with sharks swimming in cities, sharks swimming in space for that matter...

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:06
"Vertical Odyssey"? Utterly diminishing to a storied brand like Ulysse Nardin. We don't need gimmicks; we need innovative and good looking products. That is it!

Develop your core competencies, and work out from there.

 
 By: DouglasM : April 27th, 2021-16:23
1. More grand feu enamal from Donze Cadrans (I believe that's the name, the dial company they own) 2. continue the Marine Diver in titanium; the new case design, material and no-nonsense look is a winner to my eyes 3. more use of their newest manufacture ... 

Strong points, Douglas.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:07
Thanks for posting!

Not certain about good ideas. Start with eliminating..

 
 By: Ronald Held : April 27th, 2021-16:45
Skeletons for a while. More Arabic nonradial numbers. Go back for inspiration. Maybe get Ludwig back as a temporary consultant. No diluting the Freak style with crowns,etc.

You get it, Ronald.

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2021-17:08

Thanks. With some vision...

 
 By: Ronald Held : April 30th, 2021-19:37
And determination,. UN can be made right.