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Rolex Daytona 6239 Paul Newman - my first Rolex "love"
It is never obvious what it will be, but somewhere along the line, a watch grabs and makes you its own. For me, although it was most certainly not my first Rolex, the Daytona 6239 PN was the first Rolex that I adored. It had everything for me. The sportiness of the dial. The case size. 3-register manual chronograph. And yes, that mystique of the Paul Newman dial...a watch and a dial that was essentially unpopular in its day, but which subsequently grabbed the imagination of the collecting world. The 6239 is truly the first Daytona. Its a fabulously sunny day here in the UK, so I decided to take the watch out and catch a few rays on the dial. Here...a quick taster...
Books have been written on the variations and authenticity of Paul Newman dials. I know when I bought this one, I was extremely nervous. But I bought from a seller I knew and also (obviously a fellow Purist!), even back then, Marcello was around to authenticate the dial and give his opinion. Well, I paid what was at the time the market price for this watch, and it has stayed resolutely in my collection ever since. A well-known dealer spent quite some time explaining to me that I should sell him the watch as the focus of my Rolex collection was diving watches and it thus made more sense to sell the Daytona. Another dealer in London told me that it was a fake. I asked him why, and he said he would need to take the watch into his watchmaker to verify it. I stayed in the shop while he did this....incidentally, I had no worries at all during these moments as I knew my watch was 100%. About 15 minutes later, the dealer returned and apologised. He told me the watch was 100% authentic. I asked him what made him suspect it was not. His response still makes me smile. He told me that the dial was so perfect that he thought it had to be fake.
Well, I didn't sell it to either dealer. In fact, its a watch that will always sit in my collection. I spent a week in Monaco with my family when picking up the watch and it was a time of fantastic memories. I was also visiting one of my oldest and dearest friends who lives there. When I look at my 6239, I remember what a fantastic trip it was and the memories flood in. Yes, the watch is rare, but actually its "value" is what it does to me when I look at it.
Those of you who know me, know that I have a huge affection for the Patek Phillipe 5070P. I view that watch as one of my favourites. I can never resist an opportunity to talk about it.... In so many ways it is different to the Rolex Daytona. Platinum vrs Steel. 2-registers vrs 3-registers. Bezel markings. Case size. On and on one could go listing the differences. Yet, these two watches have, in my opinion, a major link. When Rolex made the Daytona Paul Newman, they caught something special. I think Patek caught something special in the 5070P. It is why i call it the Patek "Paul Newman". It is some compliment to the vintage Rolex chronograph when a Patek gets a nickname drawn from it!
Yes, we can fall deeply for a watch. It can become a part of our core collection. It can have attributes that we can describe regarding why we like it. But for me, those special watches that come to be at the very heart of our collections typically have two characteristics that pervade across the collection. Firstly, they tend to have memories that connect with something that has a lot of personal meaning. And secondly, they have "something" that we just cannot describe properly other than to say a watch has something "special" about it. Of course, this is a value judgment. Many would look at the 6239PN and not feel anything special about it at all. I can fully understand that. It is also one of the reasons why collecting watches is such a personalised process. Beauty.....value.....meaning...they are all in the eye of the beholder. And for me, I behold this 6239PN with ever-increasing affection.
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Rolex Daytona 6239 Paul Newman - my first Rolex "love"
It is never obvious what it will be, but somewhere along the line, a watch grabs and makes you its own. For me, although it was most certainly not my first Rolex, the Daytona 6239 PN was the first Rolex that I adored. It had everything for me. The sportin...
I didn't know you loved it so much.
You rarely mention it, in your posts. Ok, yes, from time to time, but if you compare the number of times you wrote about your Triple 6 or DRSD MK II PP, or even your Patek 5070P, your love for the 6239 PN is more discrete. For the Daytona lover, this is a...
It was a "first love"....
.....so it has a special place. And, to be honest, it is a watch that is valuable to me for the memories. In that sense, it doesn't thrill me like the DRSD PP for example.....its a different style of affection. But without question, I could not sell this ...
Now, if G is on the list, the, it is a keeper. This young man has
Great taste! Best, Nicolas.
Simply fantastic!
If you send as next one a nice picture of a gilt 5513 with box and papers, then you have succeeded in the torture 100%. Best, Kari
Well...not a 5513....but the one that was the very first crown guard Submariner...the 5512
I have a nice one of them..... ...
Oh S..t!
I'm not even dreaming about 5512. It's that rare nowadays. I do not have the needed words but just must raise my hat to your collection. Best, Kari
The same.
Perhaps you can give me some contacts. I just got an offer: a nice 5510 "just" € 180,000. An offer from Italy in Italian... Best, Kari
What a great dial
Joe: What a magnificent dial. I never tire of seeing that 5512 - the gloss is truly stunning. Enjoy it! -Mike
After Nicolas' thread, another deep passionate thoughts telling
I don't know much about Rolex but I know what the PN Daytonas represent in watch history. You have 2 fantastic beauties there and I'm happy to see they belong to a watch collector like you Joe. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Mark
I thought about you, at 3h am, going out from a night club...
... Don't worry, not in the wrong way :)) I was just trying on a PN 6239 of a friend. It was like a year or 2 ago, and that was my 1st contact with such a good looking vintage PN in top condition. I remembered our 1st rugged conversation about vintage wat...
Fricks, my friend, summing the collection to the essential is a top game.
Much more exciting than painful. This is our fav game, with Joe. To be honest, we didn't start, we are just thinkibg about it. Best! Nicolas.
For now dear Nicolas, if feels like giving up....
... unless you are upgrading, and fine tuning your collection. Otherwise, I think we get into that logic once we've burnt ourselves, or when we just got tired/bored, or when the fire is not as strong... Or simply when we don't have "ammo" anymore. About J...
Sadly, my 50th birthday is coming very soon, and I don't like that.
I HATE that, strongly... But my mental age more close to a 12 years old boy, so I compensate... ;) Yes, upgrading my collection is what I have in mind... But for that, I have no other solution than letting some pièces go. And drastically reducing the " co...
that makes you around 31yrs :P
... no kidding 50?!? that's 1/2 a century... :)) Waow, so when is your birthday? Anyway, you got the age of your veins as they say
Yep...as Nicolas stated....
......the end-game is just delicious. But it has in-built a number of factors. For example, it has taken me many years to realise what REALLY excites me and what is just a passing fancy. The prospect of taking a big group of watches that I like to a small...
Its good sometimes to rub shoulders...
.... we are often being too polite and hiding what we really think just not to risk offending others. Well, i see that you are on the verge of something new :)) Sounds like 2015 is going to be exciting, watch wise ...
Hello Joe! So nice to read your post and feel your passion!...
... I always feel happy to be able to read these intimate feelings about an object from its owner. This timepiece surely deserves your love for it and it being a "for life" keeper. I wish you´ll keep enjoying the love and the passion for your PN for many ...
Thanks Abel....
.....yes, we share a similar attachment to certain pieces.....i guess memories can be powerful motivators
Joe, your passion has no bounds
Such a lovely piece BUT..... that 5070P- wow! the 5512 is stunning as well actually it is all jaw droppingly, mind blowing horology in its pure form Passion , balance and condition Keep em coming Julian
Surprising
I would have thought your first love would have been a submariner- from all the conversations I have had with you. Your PN is a nice watch and I do like it much better with the black dial (as opposed to the white one) I have to admit. I like the PN and so...
The thing is.....
Subs and Sea-Dwellers excite me more from a pure "watch" perspective, but with the PN, it has deep and good memories and for that reason was my first deep attachment with a watch.....its really just an aide-memoire! If you asked me whether I was more pass...
The Newman...
...is the watch that made me love watches. I fell in love with the dial design a few years ago and it it since my favourite timepiece. Here's a picture of mine ...
Superb post.. Splendid tic-tac.. "Love is in the air".. So is your passion !.. :)
.. This apparently is a piece, for you with the " It-factor", which as we konw Is hard to describe, but intensly felt ! Guess, many here have pieces, which exert this spell on us ! Although, on a humble personal basis, I am no Daytona fan, one can underst...