I think I will never understand Rolex collectors :-) [nt]

Jun 01, 2016,00:29 AM
 

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Three Rolex GMT MASTERs recently auctioned by Phillips.

 
By: amanico : June 1st, 2016-00:24
A 1675 with " Concorde hands ": A 1675 Underline from 1962, Double Swiss: And a 6542 from 1959: If the Concorde and the 6542 came at a reasonable price, the Double Swiss Underline ended quite high, at circa 50 K Euros. Funny how the results differs from o...  

It seems like it is hard to judge these prices without seeing the watches.

 
By: Bill : June 1st, 2016-07:42
It is true that these prices don't add the suspicion that there is some strange activity like in Geneva. Here we see collectors bidding with reasonable parameters. Some watches a little high some watches a little low. This means that upon inspection peopl... 

Rolex 1675 no crown guard GMT-Master 18k

 
By: Bill : June 12th, 2016-12:51
Lot 173 ROLEX A very rare yellow gold dual time wristwatch with sweep centre seconds and transitional case without crown guards 勞力士,非常罕有,18K黃金腕錶,配兩地時間及中心秒針,“GMT”,型號1675,1962年製Manufacturer: Rolex Year: 1962 Reference N 1675 Movement N D27381 Case N 900'057...  

Correct values

 
By: Le Monde Edmond : June 19th, 2016-14:11
Nicolas in this case the results achieved and nothing to do with the models and everything to do with condition. The double swiss was a dream and should have gone for even higher in my opinion. It was worth every penny at 50K. The 6542 was in mediocre con... 

It was

 
By: Le Monde Edmond : June 21st, 2016-03:12
I inspected both watches and had both in my hand. The market was very rational here. The double swiss was a 9.5/10 watch the 6542 maybe a 7/10 maybe a 6.5/10. Wrong hands, wrong second hand and a bakelite that was cracked in multiple places.

You inspected the two watches so i have no doubt it was correct.

 
By: Bill : June 21st, 2016-08:58
I think we are talking about two different subjects. You are rightly describing two watches you inspected and deemed the double swiss to be a superior example. The other conversation in more general term is the double swiss vs a chapter ring 6542 or 1675 ... 

1675 do you think it is matching hands ?

 
By: Ran Uzan : September 25th, 2018-16:14
Case No: 1'117'358 in auction picture "Concorde",i believe its supposed to be "Dauphine" hands 1,1 mil. I have1675 gold case No 1,3 what is the right hands ??? PLEASE

Vintage Rolex no guarantee.

 
By: Bill : September 26th, 2018-20:46
I prefer dauphine hands for the look on any no crown guard and i will pay a higher price for this configuration. Is it possible to have no crown guards 1675 with concord hands why not. But not the premium of dauphine hands. The killer is no dash them it i... 

We agree. In top condition, a double swiss underline will do a massacre.

 
By: amanico : June 19th, 2016-23:13
But much less than a 6542 in equally top condition. There is / should be a hierarchy in the vintage Rolex references, I think. Best, Nicolas

Yes the perfect gilt 6542 will trample the 1675 double swiss.

 
By: Bill : June 20th, 2016-08:26
They are really in two classes so I don't think they should compete. The gilt era classes / grouping No crown guard as one class (6542/1675) Pointy crown guard as another Rounded crown guard as a third.