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You're very young. That is a statement of fact, not an insult.
Watches are marketed, through advertising campaigns in magazines, product placements in movies, endorsements by celebrities, placement of stores, the type of staff hired at boutiques and how they speak to clients, etc.
The wonderful thing about the internet is that it allows us to see through the marketing (or buy-in to it, but on a more informed basis) through the sharing of information.
What you refer to my "watch snob" persona is a considered deconstruction of watches and watch marketing, including demographic information, provided with a sense of humor that pokes fun at the "lifestyle" that watches purportedly imbue on their owners.
Sometimes if a person fits into a particular demographic (as you do, for the 19 year old that is "self made" and wants to spend 50k of his self made money on a gold lange but feels insecure about doing so because of how he might be perceived by others), he might find it insulted or take my comments personally. I cant help that. But I can assure you that the internet is not personal.
Based on the feedback in the threads e.g. "kudos for honesty" in this thread, and on private messages, I believe that this insight has value to the watch collecting community.
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I heard several opposite comments about the 5164A
Some appreciate the beauty of its dial and the clever integration of a useful complication. Others regret the shape of the two pushers on the left and a too busy dial for an Aquanaut. What is your point of view about this watch ? Hot or not ? Thanks for y...
Tortured, compared to the " simple " original.
Less is more, and beautiful. But it is just my opinion.
Sadly I must agree
I don't actually like the regular Aqua, and I find this one too busy in comparison A
+1 !
The basic Aquanaut is OK, coherent. This one, with the 2 pushers, seems trying to get closer to the Nautilus ;-)) (by far) The layout of the dial is complicated too, tortured, as Nico said... Not for me. My 2 cents opinion...
in real its better than in pics, but at £20+, that is the problem
this should be a £12-14K piece in my opinion. then...hot now.......luke warm. Best Imran
agree 100% !
I like the watch, don't love it but like it But almost 27.000 euro ??? for a steel watch with 2 timezones on a rubber strap ?? Are they nuts !!!!
Hot
I am not a fan of the Aquanaut nor the traditional modern Patek travel-time watches but this model made me took notice when I first saw it. I think the travel time was a bit too formal for a travel "tool" watch while the Aquanaut itself did not appeal on ...
It looks overcluttered
All the long minute markers and the wide clunky hands make the face look too busy. Not simple and elegant like the previous models. But then, its just my .02 worth.
I find the pushers to be well integrated into the whole, but the dial
suffers, in my opinion, because of the pattern carved into it. They needlessly distract, to my eye. j
Hot
I want one. to a point that i will sell a couple of my watches, including my 5167, to get one. I own a Rolex GMT IIC and it's an infinitely flashier watch for traveling than the 5164.
the date display a problem
Actually I have a 5167 and I like it very much for casual wear, simple and elegant, so thin that you dont feel its there. For the 5164, I like the 2 pushers on the left, it matches to the crown guard on the right. The let down is the date display, a simpl...
on a bracelet it would be perfect
I really like the travel time complication but the rubber strap is a turn off for me at this price. A few months ago I had a business meeting and the guy opposite me was wearing an aquanaut on a rubber strap. It really clashed badly with the smart busines...
well ,
as often with Patek , looking at the pics : not my cup of tea , when in the flesh : cherry on the cake (maybe) if you see what i mean
yeahhh ! Nicolas
some would be GREAT ! LOL www.servimg.com " target="_blank" > " border="0" alt="Image hébergée par servimg.com" />...
It's twice an Aquanaut in many ways: the Aquanaut as it should be...
At first, on the photo shop pictures in particular, it looked odd, to put it mildly. With the first real pictures it showed itself: it is truely a double Aquanaut. Firstly it comes with asecond "sub-globe" dial which is the little globe of the pointer dat...
Just my opinion, but it is one of my least favourite
offerings from Patek Philippe. The dial looks busy and confused.
Thanks a lot for your comments !
At the end, it seems that you are more disappointed than convinced by this watch. I feel the same. Even if it is quite clever, I found the two night/day indicators very confusing. The pushers, even if they are quite well integrated, breaks the harmony of ...
Its nice but........
there are so many other pieces that I'd rather have within that price range. Tony
50/50 FX
I like the large date wheel, but not the skeleton hour hand. And as others have pointed out the price!??? Cheers, -- Richard.
Never been a fan of aquanaut, still not convinced with the 5164
Sorry, looks contrived and trying too hard...where is the simple elegance or sophisticated presence or moneyed look or technical tour de force? Best, Horo
most definitely not hot
Busy and cluttered and very 'we have to come up with something' looking.... but then the original never did much for me either... this one is just transparently lacking all inspiration...
Hot
Nice integration of the pushers and a useful function in a practical watch. In short, a good addition to the PP range. I agree with the previous comments that a date window would have the better choice to keep the dial clean. Price? Too high for an aquana...
question for those who dont like this
Have you seen one in person? probably not. Otherwise you would like it and thinking the 5167 is better than this
5164
Do you know if the date automatically adjusts to the local time? I think this watch is perfect for me since I'm always traveling. It's practical and classy; and seems to be comfortable in any climate. Plus, it doesn't screem flash--a feature that I like w...
Nice watch.
I luckily tried this watch last week. It turned out to be a very nice one and looked much much better than in pictures. I think that 27K EUR is a little bit too much. In this price range, I'd go for a 5712/1A.
I got one today
I picked up my 5164a today and I am very pleased. I can give my 5980 a little rest for the moment.
Here you go, this was before and after the fitting...
A look under the hood Old reliable The inspection Before the band cutting/sizing Hmmm, fits perfect!...
That is a gorgeous Aquanaut and Nautilus
You are a very fortunate man to have such beautiful pieces. I really like the Aquanaut 5164; it's perfect for my lifestyle. Thanks for the pics. Ejoy!
Not
I may be a bit biased. I think the entire Nautilus and Aquanaut lines are horribly dated, but I'm a watch newb, so maybe they will grow on me in time. As to your particular question, I find the dial too busy.
Not a fashion brand...
The thing to remember about Patek watches is that they don't follow fashing trends--they are classic timepieces that are impervious to fads.
I considered this but
found the dial far too busy and cluttered. i went 5167 and haven't looked back
Cluttered
and 100% un-Patek-like... you can almost hear 'the meeting' where bean counters said 'we've got to adda complication to the Aquanaut." Then you can almost see the committee trying to jam some complications in there, and the sighing designer (s)... and fin...
I agree with some of your points, Mostel
The dial is definitely cluttered and pushers seem like an afterthought.. But I wouldn't refer to the Aquanaut as 'meh'.... less is more, and the Aquanaut is a stunning timepiece. Very well-balanced and it all works in harmony
cluttered, I think not.
Here is a picture of my watch, while I am at home and not using the GMT function. Compared to the 5167, or any simple straight time watch, one would suggest that there is a lot going on. As far as the pushers go, it makes setting other time zones lightnin...
those pushers..
I actually like it, except for the shape of the pushers on the left. They just don't work well with the case. And for that sort of money I would've expected a more impressive looking movement.
For the many of you who don't like any of the Aquanauts...
Did you ever ask yourself why it is such a smashing success? Plaese tell me.
ugly
this watch is so ugly that it makes the nautilus look beautiful in comparison, which itself is so ugly that it makes the royal oak look like a piece of good design. Its like Stern wrote a memo to Patek's designers "we have enough watches to capture the cl...
Kudos Edward !
For speaking the truth for the first time... I am a little tired of blind love people have.... esp on this forum I guess being a ''family company'' has its limitations. Creativity is really low frankly and colour combinations of dial versus watch metal le...
Ugly??? This is going to get ugly....
Now Edward, I am going to apologize now because this is going to hurt a little. Since I am the only person on this thread who actually owns this watch, I take offense to your characterizations of those who own the 5164a. After about 30 seconds of due dili...
ad hominem
Dear Sir, Is that you Dr. Freud? I thought we had doctor/patient confidentiality! Unfortunately, your aquanaut still looks like the bastard spawn of a drunken nautilus's one night stand with a cheap casio g-shock. I am excited about the forged carbon roya...
Who's on first?
Two men meet at a cocktail party. Amid furtive glances at each other's wrists, they discover that they share an interest in high end watches. One of the men, thinking that the other man is a sophisticated and refined character, proudly shows his newest ac...
fisticuffs
This scenario could never happen! No one who wears a fine Patek, even an aquanaut, would get in a fistfight while wearing it! Id rather block a punch with my face than with my left arm with a Patek on the wrist, even the dubious aquanaut GMT. Needless to ...
Don't waste your sweat...
This guy is obviously delusional and/or a pathological liar and a hypocrite, just look at his past posts, he's making a complete idiot of himself!
ban or warning
Dear Moderators, The above post by Enriguf has no horological information or value or any content related to watches or watchmaking. The only "content" of the post are personal insults without basis in fact, insults that are also unrelated to horology or ...
Ok, let me expound..
... my dear Edward. You blatantly insult people without remorse (for no good reason, in fact I'm almost certain you're just a troll), try to portray this sort of "watch snob" persona, all the while spreading your elitist, classist opinion all over the for...
young
You're very young. That is a statement of fact, not an insult. Watches are marketed, through advertising campaigns in magazines, product placements in movies, endorsements by celebrities, placement of stores, the type of staff hired at boutiques and how t...
Please do not play the moderator's role. And since you ignored my request...
I will lock this thread. Not the best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-03-07 01:44:02
I am not a huge fan of this reference and frankly
wasn't a fan of the Aquanaut when it was first launched. I just wasn't attracted to it, wasn't crazy about the dial or the rubber strap, but do know it was a huge seller as it was aimed to younger folks at a price point to allow them to enter into the rat...