Patek Philippe

Battle of three Patek Philippe titans : Ref. 5270J-001 Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 29-535 PS Q - 41 x 12.8 x 49.5 mm case Ref. 5970J Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 27-70 Q - 40 x 13.3 x 46.4 mm case Ref. 5004P-021 Perpet...  

If the 5004 was a bit bigger that would be my first choice It's too thick for it's size

but yes the dimensions aren't ideal.

Best, Emmanuel

But of all the Patek Perpetual Chronos, I have a soft spot for the 3970 (white metal, black dial, no diamonds, if I am allowed to be picky). And for my wrist the smaller size still works.

Best, Emmanuel

I just wish it wasn't 15 mm thick.

I understand your hierarchy.

5004, 5970, 5270 based on my own taste of the movement, complication and rarity.

Gordon. Shape wise I also prefer 5004 but I find it very thick at 15 mm. Best, Emmanuel

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For me the 5270 is the winner. I like the lugs and dial layout. From a practical standpoint, when I was in the process of acquiring a PP PCC, it was the one in production. 5004 is fantastic in its own right, the pushers and crown make it less desirable to... 

The only time when I was able to see 5270 and 5970 side by side I didn’t find them to be fundamentally different. Concerning the 5004, it’s the thickness rather than the pushers or crown which bothers me. Best, Emmanuel

I was ably only once to see them side by side and I didn’t find them fundamentally different. They share a very similar appearance and feel. I wish you the best for your 5970 hunt! Best, Emmanuel

Or5970 salmon dial

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All three of course 🙃

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Feels much more special to me

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So for me it’s the 5270( with the chin), due to the bigger month-day and cleaner overall look of the dial. But to be honest, for me personally, nothing beats the 3970. The 5270 family: Best, Zsolt. ...  

I think it is underrated. And I fully understand why you even prefer the 3970, which is wonderful. Best, Emmanuel

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but i am not in market for one of them anyway. Best, Ashot

5004 in any metal!!!! Did I say 5004?? The arabics. The split second. The history. The movement. The endearing size and so called “hamburger” effect. It’s a quintessential Patek and one of the all time greats. The others are beautiful. I am fortunate enou... 

I would gladly leave these two watches to anyone who is interested and I will go and try to find a 5100P or a 5105P or a 5101P. ...  

I completely understand your feeling concerning the 5004. It is quintessential Patek indeed and, to a certain extent, more full of charm and appeal than the 5970. Best, Emmanuel

If I must choose, it’s 5004, 5970 and 5270, in that order. In reality I would be ecstatic to own any of these. Or all of these 😎.

and I understand your order of preference. Best, Emmanuel

I would go with the platinum split seconds. Among other things I like the pump pushers for the chrono.

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All are grails. They have Pros and Cons. Can't be wrong with any. I have a soft spot for white metals, so 5004p if I must pick one.