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I also think that the 5270 has a lot for itself.
The only time when I was able to see 5270 and 5970 side by side I didn’t find them to be fundamentally different.
Concerning the 5004, it’s the thickness rather than the pushers or crown which bothers me.
Best, Emmanuel
Which one for you?
Battle of three Patek Philippe titans : Ref. 5270J-001 Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 29-535 PS Q - 41 x 12.8 x 49.5 mm case Ref. 5970J Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with caliber CH 27-70 Q - 40 x 13.3 x 46.4 mm case Ref. 5004P-021 Perpet...
5970 - 5004 - 5270
If the 5004 was a bit bigger that would be my first choice It's too thick for it's size
I've only been able to try on the 5204, not the 5004,
but yes the dimensions aren't ideal.
Yes please to an of 'em
But of all the Patek Perpetual Chronos, I have a soft spot for the 3970 (white metal, black dial, no diamonds, if I am allowed to be picky). And for my wrist the smaller size still works.
Hi Emmanuel, my preference in order of highest to lowest is
5004, 5970, 5270 based on my own taste of the movement, complication and rarity.
I completely understand your order of preference,
Gordon. Shape wise I also prefer 5004 but I find it very thick at 15 mm. Best, Emmanuel
All are impressive.
For me the 5270 is the winner. I like the lugs and dial layout. From a practical standpoint, when I was in the process of acquiring a PP PCC, it was the one in production. 5004 is fantastic in its own right, the pushers and crown make it less desirable to...
I also think that the 5270 has a lot for itself.
The only time when I was able to see 5270 and 5970 side by side I didn’t find them to be fundamentally different. Concerning the 5004, it’s the thickness rather than the pushers or crown which bothers me. Best, Emmanuel
Both are wonderful references.
I was ably only once to see them side by side and I didn’t find them fundamentally different. They share a very similar appearance and feel. I wish you the best for your 5970 hunt! Best, Emmanuel
Display to size ratio wise the 5004, sadly I can’t unsee the small moment in the big case of the 5970, even if I love the Lemania heritage,
So for me it’s the 5270( with the chin), due to the bigger month-day and cleaner overall look of the dial. But to be honest, for me personally, nothing beats the 3970. The 5270 family: Best, Zsolt. ...
I'm glad you speak in favour of the 5270:
I think it is underrated. And I fully understand why you even prefer the 3970, which is wonderful. Best, Emmanuel
100% 100% 100%
5004 in any metal!!!! Did I say 5004?? The arabics. The split second. The history. The movement. The endearing size and so called “hamburger” effect. It’s a quintessential Patek and one of the all time greats. The others are beautiful. I am fortunate enou...
Your dilemma.
I would gladly leave these two watches to anyone who is interested and I will go and try to find a 5100P or a 5105P or a 5101P. ...
Yours is quite the collection!
I completely understand your feeling concerning the 5004. It is quintessential Patek indeed and, to a certain extent, more full of charm and appeal than the 5970. Best, Emmanuel