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that was a great read, THANK YOU !
One thing about the 42 mm 5070
I quote ;
" You asked if Patek Philippe is considering making watches with a larger case. In fact the internal rule is that the size should be dictated by the housed calibre. Considering that another rule states that the calibre should be as thin and small as possible, you can conclude that Patek Philippe is not heading towards large watches. Looking at the 5959 below and its 33.2 mm case, you see one extreme and perfect interpretation of the principles. Certainly the as-much revered 5070 is the perfect example of the contrary since the CH 27-70 calibre of the 5070 measures 27.5 by 5.57 mm and the CHR 27-525 PS of the 5959 measures 27.3 by 5.25 mm, so close dimensions inside and extremes outside! The 5960 is more coherent to the rule with its 33 by 7.68 mm calibre CH 28-520 IRM QA 24h. But we should not forget that the 5070 was launched at a time when large watches where just getting trendy and perhaps Patek Philippe wanted to test this market ? "
I don't think it was a test. The 5070 is in fact some kind of a reproduction.
In the 1950's they made this 45 mm split second chronograph and this model was the inspiration for the 5070 (so they could have made it 45mm ;-) .
If you could ask.... in fact I asked!
A few weeks ago I offered you to ask questions to Patek Philippe. Obviously you can always ask. You can easily ask by email any company. As we say in my country (and probably in yours too) you can always ask, only answers are indiscreet. Don't wait for in...
Theanks Jerome. Very interesting.That expalins the priceof the Pilots watch earlier this
year! Julian (collector of vintage only!!)
Well yes and no!
Hi Julian, In fact if Mr Stern pays such a price for a watch, that's only because another collector stopped just before. So without him all watches he bought would have sold and probably for nearly as much! Does that make sense? Cheers Dje
Many Thanks for your kind efforts Dje. Also to Patek Philippe
for their answers. Best regards, -- Richard.
You're welcome Richard.
Hi Richard, Thank you for your comments. Patek Philippe is certainly willing to avoid the circulation of rumours or false information, so they're open to answer if it's not a secret. Cheers Dje
Very interesting, Jerome
Thanks a lot for this thread, my friend. There are 3 very interesting thing, IMO: 1/ The " thing " is in the pipe. Now, I will have to patiently wait, before deciding which chrono will be added to my collection. Dreams...And Hopes. 2/ 2014 will be an impo...
Thank you Nicolas but....
Hi, Thank you for your support. Regarding the Patek Philippe Seal I understand your point but you could also consider: 1) that the Patek Philippe Seal is very discreet. There's nothing on the dial. 2) nobody was annoyed before to see the Geneva Seal on th...
that was a great read, THANK YOU !
One thing about the 42 mm 5070 I quote ; " You asked if Patek Philippe is considering making watches with a larger case. In fact the internal rule is that the size should be dictated by the housed calibre. Considering that another rule states that the cal...
You're right Bruno!
Hi Bruno, Thank you for your comments and thank you for reminding us this inspiration for the 5070. Still not choosing to keep a 45mm diameter, they could have made it 38mm too! In fact I think the only serious reproach I've read about the gorgeous 5070 i...
Thanks for a great read...
interesting to see how the developments pan out in the future as well as sharing with us answers to questions asked before....
Thanks for a great read Jerome
and as Nicolas said, I wait anxiously for the manual wind chrono. I recall the exciting bidding for the steel pilot in Geneva, certainly a notable addition to the museum.
So you admit it is still possible to add something to the Museum!
Hi, Thank you for your comments. About the Museum I can just say: unbelievable! The quality and variety of pieces shown is fantastic. It deserves a Geneva visit just for itself! Cheers Dje
Thanks Jerome, it's a super wonderful read :-)
Now that we know that Patek doesn't use laser welding technique, I start to wonder will they allow the collector to get a fresh case should their watch is severely damaged or dinged. Just being curious. I know Lange and FP Journe will allow that. Cheers, ...
Thanks Jerome for your excellent report..............
I found the answers regarding a hacking complication interesting, didn't realise that they would have to design a new calibre!
Thank you CL!
Hi, I understand your question. Regarding vintage watches they try to keep as many original pieces as possible. I can't imagine replacing a vintage case (they certainly would not have the spare case anyway). Regarding new watches I can ask if you really w...
Thanks alot!
I am very happy to hear the 5134 complication will not be gone. Patiently wait for the new model! Thanks again!
Lots of questions answered. Thanks Dje, an invaluable post...
I didn't have any specific questions, but I did have some holes in my mind that needed filling. These have helped fill many of those holes. Thanks Dje and many thanks to Missus Steele and Mister Jaquet at Patek Philippe for answering our questions.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you.
I noted something that seemed to be an anomaly, though: did they really try to tell you that watch size is dictated by movement size? If so, they seem to be giving themselves quite a lot of leeway with some of the new models.
To some extent that's what they mean!
Hi, Then you can imagine that they want to offer a variety of watches, so a variety of sizes! They're not going to create a new calibre for each different watch, just avoid extremes I guess! All brands have to do with costs obviously (unfortunately). Chee...
Great read, Dje!
Thanks for being our ambassador to the land of Patek Phillipe. There was a lot to enjoy in your post, both words and photos. I look forward to seeing what PP offers up in the future. Cheers, Daos
Wow this is more than I expected!
Thank you Jerome for this! It would be easy for me to state, "more than expected", but this is exactly what we have come to expect from your posts. Brilliant, thank you!
Thanks Jerome, a wonderful treatment and approach to a
unique situation. I think you handled the questions and information in a masterful manner and then a grail watch to finish us off! Thank you Sir. Best, Tim
One of our own asked for us!
Many thanks for your insightful report. Patek Philippe is a mystery in so many ways; while being a leader they seem to do so by inovating without making huge changes, said differently they are constantly changing while remaining exactly the same (very tru...
Thank you Dje....
for a great report and collecting all the answers- thanks to PP for providing them to us. Very informative, although a bit disappointed on their stand on the case sizes- I would like to see a 41mm or a 42mm model Cheers
Merci beaucoup Jerome...
for taking the time and effort to answer all our questions. So perhaps it's time to get the 5196P as the cal.215 will stay for sometime, but then again the 5970P is also very tempting even just seeing the case picture. Maybe the new in-house manual chrono...
5196P and 5970P?
Hi, Thank you for your words. Why would you want to wait for something else? Cheers Dje