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Ok, crazy thought...
... there's no "downward direction," just occasional models or lines that aren't appealing. The 1990s 5090 "Sculpture" was almost universally hated, few love the 5015, and the 5020 had no fans until auction houses and Hodinkee latched onto it. We don't decry Philippe Stern's 1990s reign of terror or the terminal spiral of Patek because the 1990s also had many tremendous design triumphs and classics.
So does the period since 2009 that Thierry has been running the company. The 5235 was awesome, the 6119 is lovely, and almost everyone agrees the 5811 is a nicely restrained evolution of the 5711; there are many more.
As a person who often encounters brands that won't service watches only 15-25 years old, Patek's recent pledge to service and support every watch and clock back to 1839 is refreshing. The large-scale exhibitions in global markets have been wonderful opportunities for locals to show up unannounced and without pre-clearance to see a huge selection of modern and vintage pieces - for free.
Honestly, even if the Cubitus is a miss - and I'm not a fan - there's a huge catalog and recent back catalog to enjoy. Even the Cubitus might look better with a more balanced dial, enamel, or a bracelet. Patek isn't AP hung up on one sprawling collection of watches or Breguet desperate for -- any! -- attention. The company doesn't seem to be for sale like half of the independently owned brands in the industry or in dire financial straights.
Really, the big picture is pretty good for such a large company with such varied offerings.
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Cubitus By Thierry Stern
Surprisingly, have had this situation kinda stuck in my head on-and-off over the past day or so. How to save Patek Philippe from what I perceive as a downward direction? Yes, I know, it is all 100% all in my own head. With apologies, as my first love over...
A new line by Thierry Stern called Cubitus.
Since Thierry Stern is respected, the new Cubitus By Thierry Stern line could stand on its own (so to speak). Or, ok, it could be 'in association with Patek Philippe' or some such. ADDED for clarity: If the new release is indeed a Quartz movement watch. I...
Who cares what this is called really?
There’s not much to discuss until we see the real watch get pass through the hands of journalists and collectors. Best Gatsby
I don’t like this design either
In fact, I really don’t care about Patek these days. I don’t like how TS handled the Nautilus situation. I had issues when they discontinued the 5711. I never liked the Tiffany dial 5711 and really cannot appreciate why they made all these rare one off 57...
Unfortunately Patek bowed to nepotism in the design department.
There are so many obvious problems with the aesthetics of many brands' dial designs alone that it is disheartening. Basic things (like bad type) that are not subjective. It always amazes and saddens me that there is so little care taken to ensure that det...
Well my friend….
There is always old Patek to collect. And modern Rolex for me is still fun to buy if you desire something new. If you notice the last one year is pretty telling. People are becoming disinterested in watches. Even the most passionate of collectors are sell...
It will be an interesting 2025 in the horological world...
...and yes, if I had a lot of disposable income, I would buy nothing but independents and vintage. Maybe some modern Rolex mixed in.
Spin off
That is called a “spin off” product. A product line, inspired by the core values of the brand, but not in line 100% with the classic product the brand offers (value, quality, material, design). It is usually an entry level product, with lower monetary val...
Just wait for the press release pls
The date window does not look symmetric in this circulating image.
100% agree. There is soooo much speculation. Also new image per your post.
Look forward to the details when it is officially released. I Pshopped the date windows so it visually looks more centered below. Do you mean more like the below, or does the date windows also need to go up a pixel or three too? ...
(Friendly fun humor) Don't you mean BMW?
Lust kidding of course, as even Bentley is now just a VW Group product.
In my country it’s kind of an old saying
So not to be adjusted to modern time automotive concern’s
Is this like the Moonswatch? I'd nickname it the SternPatty...
... except it's more like a CowPatty to me.
(Deep sigh) Not really-ish, unless the Thierry Stern Cubitus is $2000 with a non-metallic case (how silly is that!?!). So MoonSwatch comparo, i just can't go 'that far' (jmho)
MoonSwatch is quartz, sure, yet also made from materials that are made as they are. With the new Thierry Stern Cubitus there more into the product versus MoonSwatch (or at least judging by the pics it seems that way). Perhaps it truly is best we wait for ...
You avatar picture says it all
I'm waiting for the specs, but a round movement in a square case says it all. This is the Stern jr age, let him do whatever he wants with his company, the path is clear.
Agree, his path as he so chooses.
Since i do change my avatar from time to time, for clarity today, weeks from now, and of course years from now.... my current (Oct 17, 2024) avatar is the M.A.D.1 Time To Love timepiece. ...
Ok, crazy thought...
... there's no "downward direction," just occasional models or lines that aren't appealing. The 1990s 5090 "Sculpture" was almost universally hated, few love the 5015, and the 5020 had no fans until auction houses and Hodinkee latched onto it. We don't de...
Other's comments pretty much showcase...... Seiko-like series 'The Patek Way'.
....would love to have an honest chat with Dad Stern and how he'd have designed proper square movement, or three, for the new releases. Gave it more thought today.... I was thinking 25%-priced Quartz makes sense for PP, just as Seiko has 'basic' Quartz an...