Patek Philippe

My take: Same land masses, but other than that, to me couldn’t be more different. Much more detailed and colorful map on the 5231, although colors are perhaps brighter and arguably more vibrant on 5131. Different hands on 5231 and Patek on the dial, not t...  

My personal preference, though I'm not much into J gold, is for the earlier 5131 versions in general...even if clearly less sophisticated than the 5231 in terms of execution, since the latter came over 10 years later. But I admit my preference for the 513... 

I wonder if the 5131 has this contour on the land and ocean? I like your England more than mine...😊 ...  

I do like the crown guards on the 5131 however

Overall I prefer the 5131 but I’m biased. I like the map colors of the 5231 and the city font but prefer the patek name on the case as well as the case shape of the 5131. Kind of like that people have no idea what watch it is since they’re trying to look ... 

IMO, key points of the two references are: 5231J: improved technique on the enamel dial because of the 10+ years of experience on the 5131 series, and 2) font for the city ring is more usual 5131J: 1) more vibrant colors (important to me on an enamel dial... 

be the exception to the rule.

I prefer the 5130 case over the 5230 as the former in my eyes is pretty unique in the PP case line-up with its lovely rounded forms. 5230 case is more like “standard” case design of PP which can be found in pretty similar versions on other models. But as ... 

the 5231R will be beautiful! Interesting story about the the rejected 5231s. Never heard of something like that (but why would I)? When I got my 5131J years ago, after years of waiting and hoping for one, I must confess I was so thrilled to get it, that t... 

Hey Cayene Something similar happened to me with my 5131P. I did not have the guts to turn it down when the opportunity to purchase it surfaced. But I did notice two things with naked eye: poor enamelling job (bubbling, much more evident with loupe) and a...  

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That‘d be my preferred, stealthy way of branding the watch. In terms of 5131/5231, frankly I’m undecided. Love the 5131‘s fluid lines, the minute hand on the 5231 and the enamel work on both!

Something about the case speaks more to me. With the angles and lugs, smaller bezel, in yellow gold has a vintage feel. Also think the enamel work is different, more detailed for sure. Have heard the enamel artist shifted from mother (for 5131j) to her so...  

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Very kind words. Much appreciated!

If so, what is the name of the color on the 5131?

This is based on : finer enameling, font, dislike of PP name engraved on the bezel and case size.

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It is worth of course noting the differences in the J over the 8 or so years it was in production. ...  

and these 2 J's you show are more desirable in my eyes than any 5231J shown

Just grabbed the image off the internet but shows how the style changed drastically over the production period

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Perhaps being a bit of a contrarian, there are things I like about both approaches.