Patek Philippe

So distinct! So Beautiful! Its amazing to me how the Patek 5070 takes on a new role, image and life in a different metal. I find it very hard to say that these two watches are the "same".......Are these watches timeless in their design, look, feel? Or are...  

Timeless Classic if they are 40mm or lesser. Currently, they are too big with very easily dinged and scratchable bezels. They are very beautiful especially the platinum and the RG version but just too big and too much hype. I use to have one but very quic... 

You never know which pieces will be timeless classics, but I do believe the 5070 will be in that group. The 5070 was designed in pre-2000 before the big watch trend, and, though it is 42 mm, its design including dial and bezel bring an overall feel of sub... 

won't we all still love it if it is a 40mm ;-) The only thing with 5070 is it is forever overshine by Datograph. As for the 5970, only one watch comes near but not yet, the VC platinum dial Malt Perpetual Chronograph. But then again, it's really purely my... 

I succumbed to the hype of the 5070 and owned a 5070P. Once I put it on my wrist, however, I was VERY disappointed. The case proportions were just so bizarre. An extremely wide case with such a thin profile made it seem like I was wearing a big plate on m... 

but I am also a bit confused. The 5070P you were selling was supposed to be double sealed, so I am not clear how you spent any time with it on your wrist. And you also had the opportunity for several deals to sell the watch as I understand, including one ... 

One of which I strapped on - and disliked immediately. The other 5070P was sealed, and I sold it eventually, albeit with a LOT of difficulty. As for dealers paying above retail - you are right, they were around when the watch came out, but were nowhere ne... 

About a zillion collectors are looking for one and can't get it. Even a lot of AD don't get/got 1 And you had 2 of those ...

... for those that have a big wrist. I still find it a bit small, compare to other 42mm watches, and this is due to the fact that its quite thin, but i think the proportion is perfect. I think we have to be fair, PP catalogue is mainly build of watches th... 

I wear 40-44MM watches primarily and the 5070 s just about right. My previous comments about the long strap were rectified by the short strap. The dilemma with the P is it's so heavy that the strap has to be right or it falls to one side if worn loose. To... 

with 13ZN movements which IMHO are truely timeless classic.

that you don't think have a good chance to become "timeless classics?"

I just wanted to say that he is 'right' about how the seller's market rarely resembles the forums' enthusiasm or hype about any given watch. I know this from personal experience. It is truly like a freak disconnect, and this includes both lemania chrono a...