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My small problem with the 5140P is...
... that it retails for such a high price (here in the US, at least) of $109,000 via ADs. For that price you can find, with some effort, a third series 3970J (with solid and display backs) or even a second series 3970J (a bit more rare and supposedly more sought after by collectors). And much like the proportions of the 3940 versus the 5140 I am enamored of the proportions of the 3970 versus its later incarnations (the 5970).
Uh oh, I guess this means I'm on the hunt for a 3970... Oh man....
Alea Iacta Est!
For a couple of years I have been planning to buy a Perpetual Calendar of Patek with 240 Q movement. Some 10 years ago my dream was a 3940J and with the new 5140 the ultimate dream was a 5140P. The fantastic blue dial attracted me a lot. However, I had al...
Thank you.
I also like 3940. I have an eyesight of an oldish man and still the watch is totally readable. I have visited the Salon and several AD probably 20 times and can't help but in my eyes 5140 is messy and the text too big. But that's just a matter of taste. A...
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I had the same ambivalent feelings towards the yellow gold / platinum / white gold color combinations, so I went with a 3940P, then a 5040J. Hehe!
Platinum is always something special.
My 2nd choice was 3940P. However, I wanted the classic feature of Grand Complication: exhibition back plus a separate solid back. I could not find a 3940P with that feature even I have heard rumors that such would exist. Best, Kari
Yes, mine only has a solid back
I get my viewing pleasure from my 5040J, which does have both backs. Of course my issue now is that a 3970J is whispering to me... Eek. I think I will need to save for a few years though.
The Devil whispered
to me that 3940R would pair nicely with 5140P. I'm still trying to resist. Best, Kari
Well, I suppose I gave in...
... I'm very happy with the way my 5040J complements my 3940P. And if I really have a hankering for steel, a bracelet and a fascinating blue dial then I put on my 5711/1A....
Kari you have got yourself two great looking pieces
I agree with your thoughts, the 3940 is a lot more easier GC to read then the 5140. And the R/G is a beautifully warm colour. And the 5726 makes a nice companion for the 3940R
Thanks a lot.
What I really enjoy is the process towards the acquisition(s). I had a good time when trying to discover the "perfect" perpetual and finally with the money reserved for 5140P, I got the perpetual plus the AC. Best, Kari
kari, That is one classy watch. Great catch. Congratulations
Did you ver try on a Pt 3940 - just to see how it felt? Julian
I tried 3940P
and to be honest, it was very difficult to say "no". But I had some heavier reasons to go for RG. Best, Kari
Yes, of course. But you did another choice and I respect it.
Even if I prefer the cooler dial of the P.... But it is just me. And I don't doubt your reasons are excellent. Best, The Lawyer. :)
Ah, Lawyers....
There is no argument between us: the blue dial is Cooler! This time my reasoning went in such a way that the reference is so classic that perhaps the fancy dial is too much. Furthermore, I have not been able to decide if I would love it after the first ho...
The 5140 P needs an extra effort, but I still think it is worth it.
What a nice companion it would be for your other blue dialed Patek, you know, the one we have in common. As for the nice spring in Paris, well let's say that we have an exceptional warmth wave. 2 Degrees Celsius... Best, Nicolas
These blue dials are my problem...
My 5110P is with me to stay even I'm getting another blue 5131G. Then there's my 3712 and WG Golden Ellipse. Indeed, white and blue is a great combination - just like the Finnish flag. Tallinn is much colder than Paris - we have +1. Best, Kari
I have been thinking about that. A lot.
All 240 based movements with blue dials plus 5070P plus 5100G... It is awful how there are new temptations around all the time. And I just want to see the time - or... Best, Kari
I would go in a different way...
But I already own the 5070G, so yes, for you, a 5070P would be very interesting... Now, I still have two modern targets: 5960P and 5100G... To close my Patek collection. And a 3417 for the good note, in the vintage world. Best, Nicolas
I understand your way.
However, in my books 5960P is a bit "rude" being a Patek. It's big, it's thick and it's very modern. Best, Kari
Has everyone forgot about a 5100g too?
Kari has one beautiful Patek collection. Best, Joe
No. Not me.
If I had to add only one modern Patek in my collection, it would be the 5100G. By far. Is it a surprise for you? ;) Best, Nicolas
One day we will be giving
competing offers for the same 5100G. Anyhow, I hope that in the end we both will get ours. Best, Kari
An all time great Patek
Big, big congrats to your latest catch: a RG 3940 ... how lovely! Your decision making process was also absolutely right and resultated in one very, very fine and classy Patek. What I like most about the 3940 is the small size, the chamfered bezel and the...
Thank you Count,
I knew you would like that; especially in yellow gold. But believe me; in 3940 red gold is stunning and normally I do not like red. Best, Kari
240Q is a must have
Congratulations Kari. You explained your choice and it was so obvious for you to get this RG version. Wear it in good health, in all elegant and dressy events. Cheers, Patrickh
I agree - 240 Q is a must.
But so is 240, 240 HU and 240 PS IRM C LU. I would not have anything against 240 LU CL either. Best, Kari
Great catch Kari on your 3940!
My 3940G says hello! I had the 3940j, then the 5140G and finally this 3940G, therefore I can honestly say 3940 is my cup of tea! :) I agree with you 5140 though 1 mm bigger, the dial looked too cluttered to me, exactly what you've described it to be. But...
Thanks Mech - yours looks great on your wrist
and I must admit that WG looks really great. I had many reasons to go for RG this time. I do not have a large Patek "collection" but I want to see at least one example from each product family (Calatrava, Golden Ellipse, Gondolo, Nautilus, Aquanaut, Compl...
Thanks Kari, I guess the 3940p is a pretty cool watch
even if it doesn't come with a see through back. The hard back actually makes it look and wear slimmer! Your collection policy is superb, each category of complication has its iconic piece. I wish I could have the resource to do the same. Post more pix so...
I agree,
solid back feels slimmer and that's the reason for two backs. But for sure I could live with greatest of pleasure with a 3940P. More pictures... Here my 3940R looks a bit more reddish. DIV Best, Kari ...
I was pretty impressed with the 5980 when it
was first launched. So you know my answer to your gem :) HAGWE Mech.
Platinum is always #1
Do you have the solid back or the rumored transparent back? Best, Kari
Nope, just the solid back
And I even got the earlier series (early 1990s) so I didn't have the deployant clasp. But it's easy enough to get a deployant clasp separately. The display back, not so easy. So, I turn to my 5040J for the display back! Heh heh.
Fantastic anyhow.
Does your 3940P feel thinner than your 3940J with display back? Best, Kari
Thanks in large part to you and your posts, Mech
That's why I went for the 3940P after months of research! I am on the hunt again for a different Patek animal. I will post pics when I acquire the piece. I think it is in the same "classic" lines as the 3940. Let's see what you think!
Can't wait to see what you'd add to your
collection. For me, the 5050 is high on my wish list :) Mech.
Ah the 5050 has that nice classic look
With the added bonus of that retrograding feature for the calendar - that is pretty sweet. Had a chance to pick up a 5059 recently too with an officer's case but I had to "keep my eye on the prize." I will keep that a small secret for now, but soon, Mech ...
Ya know...
... I have the opportunity to get a 5136/1J, a perpetual on a bracelet. My issue is exactly this - that the proportion of the letterings now follows the 5140's relative size/format. But I prefer the 3940's! Heh heh. I have a 5040J, but I think the relativ...
I would stay with the old and trusted
3940. Yes, 5140 is 1.2 mm bigger and €,€€€.$$ more expensive. Just calculate how much that's per one meter. And what do you get? A bit bigger case and a bit messy dial. Best, Kari
Good point here
I wouldn't go with a brand new 5140, that's for sure. I do like how my 5040J complements my 3940P: So the letters and numerals are about the same size/shape as the 5140, but the tonneau shape makes it work somehow (at least for me). Sorry for the bad pict...
I had a 5040 on my list
and I found many. However, nome in NOS condition and complete. I love especially the version With Breguet numerals and either J or G would do well for me. Best, Kari
Yes, I lucked out
The 5040J that I found was pre-owned but in mint/unpolished condition, had open papers AND an extract from the archive, complete with winding box, stylus, etc. I actually got it within a week of my 3940P haha. So I've been letting my wallet recover for a ...
I am also demanding a totally complete watch
preferably unpolished. Even all my Pateks have a Certificate of Origin, I'm ordering the Extracts of Archives to all over 5 years old watches - even if I bought the same brand new from the AD. One day I'll find a perfect 5040. Best, Kari
My small problem with the 5140P is...
... that it retails for such a high price (here in the US, at least) of $109,000 via ADs. For that price you can find, with some effort, a third series 3970J (with solid and display backs) or even a second series 3970J (a bit more rare and supposedly more...
That's what I have been wondering.
The new version of 3940, I mean 5140, is remarkably more expensive than what 3940 was. What did we get more: same movement but 1.2 mm bigger size and a messier dial. Best, Kari
Thank you a lot.
Same manufacturer and nearly same functions but so very different... Best, Kari
well done!
I love 3940 so much.... to buy both 3940R and 3940G. A wonderful watch. Fabio ...
Haa...
I have fooled with similar ideas! It would be a cool idea to have my pet perpetual in three colors like I have my favorite dress watch VC Patrimony Contemporaine. But such an idea is probably too expensive to make true. Best, Kari
Great duo Fabio! Both of them seem to be snuggling
comfortably within their winders! Thanks for sharing the photos! Mech.
Congrats Kari!!
Looks great, something pure and simple and that watch. Rose gold is a good choice, nice and warm. Strangely i love it in Rg, and i'm indifferent to the Wg one. I got to admit that i got a weakness for the 5140P. You have a nice collection of Patek with 24...
I guess ref. 6000G is
more or less realistic but 5102/6102 remain a distant dream. Best, Kari
Big congrats!
Love the contrasting complication, model case and their universal appeal. Thanks for sharing!
Congratulations
This is certainly a dream piece you have acquired. What a colelciton you have, and this certainly compliments it. Best regards, D
Thank you descartes1
Indeed, it is a dream piece but a small dream piece. I am afraid even to dream about my big dream pieces and focus into these small ones. Best, Kari