If you could only have one…

Nov 19, 2023,23:24 PM

Of the modern perpetual chronograph Pateks, which would it be?




Of these three, the 5270 has gotten the least love among the public.  Curious what collectors here think.

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For me it’s the 5204. But I am a sucker for

 By: edtonkin : November 19th, 2023-23:42
split second complications. My ultimate perpetual calendar split seconds is the 5004!

I’ve seen you post your 5004

 By: Cozmopak : November 19th, 2023-23:47
That watch is an absolute wonder!

Agreed, Split seconds 5004 and PCC

 By: Dauster : November 20th, 2023-01:50
Only 5970. But since money is not infinite for me I’d go WG 5270 or even 3970 most bang for buck

5004 for sure!

 By: xto : November 20th, 2023-20:29


 By: amanico : November 20th, 2023-21:17

I will be happy with any one of the above…

 By: Clueless_Collector : November 19th, 2023-23:55
I have tried on the 5270J and it wears perfectly on my wrist. I’m not sure about the 5204 and thinking it might be a little thick at 14.3mm….i would assume the 5970 will wear fine like the 5270. For my logical mind, I will probably get a 5270R/J/P any ver... 


 By: Cozmopak : November 20th, 2023-00:15
Everything is softening a bit

5970, for me.

 By: amanico : November 20th, 2023-00:25

My vote is for 5270.

 By: pw927 : November 20th, 2023-01:27
Can’t go wrong here but 5270 is my ideal of a wristwatch.

I could very easily cozy up to a 5204

 By: Brandon Skinner : November 20th, 2023-02:27

Am with you!

 By: amanico : November 20th, 2023-07:48

I agree too.

 By: hora12reborn : November 20th, 2023-08:29

;) ;) ;)

 By: amanico : November 20th, 2023-21:27

This is well formulated...

 By: bruckner4 : November 20th, 2023-15:43
though the three below the top two have their charms.

Out of the three the 5970.

 By: hora12reborn : November 20th, 2023-05:39

5204 - When it comes to PCC (and SS-PCC) I just prefer clean dials with no Tachymeter scale

 By: Oldskoo1 : November 20th, 2023-10:21
So 2499-3/4, 3970, 5004, 5204, 5270g-1, 5270p-14

In my opinion, the one you can afford will be the one you love more or less…

 By: ZSHSZ : November 20th, 2023-11:03
As a grail, I’ll vote for the 5004 or 5204, due to the complication and balanced esthetics. Now if we are talking about PPC’s , my favorite will be the 3970P silver/white dial followed by the 5270G first generation closely followed by the second gen(chin)... 

Agree here

 By: TeutonicCarFan : November 20th, 2023-14:01

5204 for me please!

 By: Mike H : November 20th, 2023-14:23
Since I already have a 5970 These are actually two great references imho

5970 all day long. Then some more.

 By: Miles_151 : November 20th, 2023-16:55
Brimming with Patek DNA. Prefer the Movement , case proportions and dial layout. Simples. Lume kills the 5204 for me. M. ...  

I think I agree with you on this

 By: Cozmopak : November 20th, 2023-17:44
The hands of the 5204 just don’t do it for me

5270 for the lugs and thickness

 By: ChetBaker : November 20th, 2023-18:46

5970 is definitely my first choice. IMHO about as perfect as a watch can be. 2d - 5004. Plenty of 2499 DNA and slightly larger than 3970 at 36.7 to 36 mm. Also much prefer the dial to

 By: patekova : November 20th, 2023-19:22
standard 3970 dial which I find to be a bit austere. I find the 5004 case to be a bit too thick for its size. Not as comfortable to wear as 5970 or 3970. 3rd - 5204 Love the complications. Would have to get used to the hands and lugs, which I am sure I wo... 

For me, the grail is

 By: GLau : November 21st, 2023-14:24
5970 with its movement !