Patek Philippe

I think credit is the most important and basic for any business. Those few days I travel to Den Haag. I originally just help my friend to see Grönefeld and that shop also have to sell Patek Philippe. I know Nautilus will never sell the people like me. I'm...  

...about this bad treatment!!!! the only consolation i can offer is that this is the leather-strap model, not the SS-bracelet version.

so...I don't know why they don't want to sell... two year ago...it still have discount...

It is important for the brand to be represented in the best light but sometimes the AD has only one focus and it can be a negative impact for the brand. If this was at a Patek exclusive shop i doubt this would happen. It is true there can be some snobbish... 

It did not happen in the Patek exclusive shop. I also have visited so many watch shops in the world. From Asia to Europe, I think snobbishness is normal in the watch shop and that's also why I feel the women staff is good. I don't care snobbishness, becau... 

First of all i know this AD well and have never been disappointed by them . They always treat me honestly . I have to admit i never bought a Patek with them so cant say much about that . If they've treated you like that its a shame imo. About your wish to... 

Originally If this time successfully completes the transaction, it let me want to make more deal in the future. Even I need to take a flight to here. I also feel the women staff is very kind and not look me short. I think her service attitude is top 5 in ... 

Sad to hear about your bad experience. I regularly visit this AD and I must say they have a very knowledgeable staff, always honest and fair towards their customers. I’m sure there’s a waiting list on every single nautilus model, it must have been a commu... 

But the first day two staff is together to show me the watch. And I afraid my English listening is not very well...I have repeat again.

You're right, the finishing is far superior on the Groenfeld to what you'd find on a nautilus or aquanaut.

The 1941 movement is most beautiful I saw. Better than F.P.journe a.lange & sohne pp

The Gronefeld is at a different level from the brands you mentioned and the movement is definitely better finished than any Nautilus. The only brands with arguably superior finishing to the Gronefeld would be Akrivia/Rexhep Rexhepi, Voutilainen, Romain Ga... 

if you can pay the premium. Just about every shop everywhere selling gray/used is ready to make the sale to you.

It's wasted money for me.

... Behave like a customer. Buy different. ...  

Hello Jason. The story sounds like poor form on the part of the seller, rather than the brand. Nevertheless, is it possible, and even natural, that they were concerned to sell a sought after piece to a non regular client, worried it might get flipped for ... 

I don't want to take care watch in the trip. And they said I can pay the deposit first. Come to get when I go back to my hometown. I need to check fight. I didn’t make a trip to buy a watch on this trip, so I need to check my credit is no problem. Just li... 

I would stay clear if the staff is not welcoming, but I would not give up on the brand.

Between a Gronefeld and 5726, I would take the Gronefeld everytime, there is no contest. This is 5726 on a strap and for me personally it is a definite no even at a discounted price. To me Nautilus looks best on a bracelet.

But the problem is less chance to get that for me....haha

I hope you make a complaint about the sales tactics used on do not let one bad apple spoil the bunch. Patek the brand, and many of it's AD retailers are wonderful people. Countless awesome experiences here and abroad when buying and selling.

Some ADs can be jerks. Esp if you want the popular Patek Nautilus. Agree with what the rest said here. Unless you care about resale, get the Gronefeld instead. It's the much nicer watch than the 5726.