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I agree totally
The PC in a thin case would be the goal to achieve, hence using the 240, as they perfectly do with the 5140/5940 etc... (I would not like it in a 5980 case personally)
Now, I wonder how round subdials would look in the Nautilus case? Or maybe they can use the layout available in the 5213 you mention (or 5159, 5496 etc...) The thing is that the 5159, 5496 (with retrograde date hand) use the 324 caliber, thus the thicker one... I don't think they can adjust it so easily on the 240.
Otherwise, I read the rest of your thoughts with great interest and I follow you completely!
Another point: waterproof. The 5712 is 60m (whereas all the others are 120m). I heard from Patek it was because of the thinness needed in the 240, thus the gasket where also smaller. Maybe it won't be 120m anymore...
We'll see at Basel or later in the year.
Cheers, Mark
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Overview of the Nautilus line's History and celebrating its 40th anniversary in 2016
reposted - had share Bill Hi everyone, Baselworld 2016 will be showing its nose in a month or so and, as it is also an important year for the Nautilus line, I thought it would be interesting to have a look back and discuss what we would like to see this y...
Discrete evolution
I will risk three predictions for the 40th anniversary, since I am a fan of the Nautilus line myself! 1) A platinum 5980 (not limited, but obviously with very low production numbers... and a very heavy price tag). Discontinuation of all other remaining 59...
These are potential interesting guesses
...except maybe about the Platinum versions when added to bracelets as the tools are wearing very much while crafting this dense material and it is even more difficult to produce at a high volume output. I read about reasons supporting the 5712 discontinu...
40th wishes
Firstly thanks Mark for the wonderful history. Nautilus is just a phenomenal line and I hope they will keep it classy and evolve with the following iterations: - 5726P on a strap with champagne or salmon dial - 5726R on a strap with a black dial - 5980P o...
My pleasure keks, thanks :)
I see that you're also keen on Platinum choices for the Nautilus. So do I, but I must say that using this material is a real problem when dealing with tools life expectancy... I don't think they will go that way for a standard edition, even for the 40th, ...
my thoughts
just a little increased sized case for all the Nautilus collection and a perpetual calendar version. Less than a month to discover all new models ;-)) Mark, congratulations for this detailed post ++++ Cheers, Patrickh
That's a daring move
but I think there is always a demand for little bigger watches so I imagine it isn't impossible. Yes, less than a month Patrick, and time for specualtions! Thanks for your warm comments Cheers, Mark
Amazing work as always, Mark!
How about a skeletonized Nautilus? Here\'s one for the weekend! ...
Fantastic Article Mark. I shall have no guesses or wishes....
..it is easier that way Personally I am sure we do not need an even bigger Nautilus, we have seen a Platinum 5711 and I am sure that caused enough pain for a limited market (oh no now I am playing the guessing game must stop To me there are already too ma...
You're courageous to resist!
I must say, even if I can understand some people like bigger sizes (and I think they should be provided with such an offer), I wouldn't really like to see such increase personally. In the mean time, if it remains a +0.5 or +1mm maybe it would be ok (or I ...
This is an interesting suggestion
we rarely saw in the catalogue (5180, more a craftmanship work). The problem is that, as we don't have any, it may not seem "Patek enough" and the Royal Oak does this also (and very well). But it is a question we can legitimately ask. You picture's light ...
Like you, thinness is a virtue I hope the Nautilus line will continue to pride itself in...
Whether it is going to be a skeletonized version (where thinness may not be a real challenge), or a Perpetual Calendar complication. Now, a perpetual calendar Nautilus, while keeping the proportions of the 5711 would truly be a gound-breaking achievement....
I agree totally
The PC in a thin case would be the goal to achieve, hence using the 240, as they perfectly do with the 5140/5940 etc... (I would not like it in a 5980 case personally) Now, I wonder how round subdials would look in the Nautilus case? Or maybe they can use...
Once again: a fantastic post, thank you
The best way to tell me about my predictions is to tell that in April I will get my 5712 to pair with my 3712. I really hope that 5712 will be replaced by a perpetual Nautilus and if it will, I'll order the perpetual on spot. Soon we see! Best, Kari
Well, I know you appeal for the Perpetual Calendar
this is a very nice complication while keeping nice proportions. Will it be too much next to the 5726? I don't know but maybe... Yes, less than a month Kari. Cheers, Mark
It is easy to discontinue 5726.
This watch has been sold with rebates and that's not to the liking of Patek. Best, Kari
They indeed can replace it with the PC
in the mean time, the clients who already bought a 5726 may not be happy to see the PC is coming soon after... Another possibility we'll have to check at Basel or later in the year. Cheers, Mark
I think AC & PC are quite different watches as well as different
price classes. No owner of AC should be upset if the reference is replaced by PC. I hope this will happen! Best, Kari
It is!
However, if Patek wants to develop the Nautilus family to new directions, there are not that many alternatives. Perpetual, world time, chronograph AC, split second chronograph, diver, minute repeater... The last three ones are very unlikely. Let's see how...
I know Patek is good at making surprises
In the mean time, there are some complications I wouldn't like to see in the Nautilus line, as they fit a more classical "spirit" to me: Minute repeater and Tourbillon. This is a family that can very well remain with simple complications, the best example...
I must admit that watches like 3700
are hard, if not impossible, to beat. I'll show one day something amazing. Best, Kari
I like amazing :)
In the mean time, as a daily wear, I don't know it the thinness of the 3700 makes it resistance enough. I think it is a watch to be used on weekends only (i.e. once in a while). But, yes Kari, what a beautiful watch it is. Cheers, Mark
The track record of 3700 is great
and PP Service in Geneva is there to secure that the watch is as water proff than on the day it was born. Best Kari
This is important indeed
it would really be a shame not to be able to enjoy it because not sure it can be restored/serviced. This is a great asset from the brand as well. Looking forward to see this Kari. Cheers, Mark
Thank you Markfor a lovely report on the Nautilus ! My guess and hope are for a simple...
5711 with a seconds sub-dial and no date function, thus bringing out more Patek DNA of simple elegance and providing a "LESS is MORE" concept. BTW, did the 30th anniversary see limited editions ? If not, I think 40th will not neither. Perhaps at 50th, whi...
Interesting how you see it
I would think that the central second is more "less is more", but this is my subjective perspective of course. You'd like something like in the 5124G I presume? The thing is that I don't see a small second version on the 324 caliber in the catalogue neith...
Thank you
Thank you for an excellent summary. Next month should be interesting for sure! One thing on the 3700 production you had 1976-1990. Was that supposed to be -1980? Best regards
Next month... or later...
as I don't know when they will launch the 40th anniversary event. The 3700 was produced from 1976 to 1990. You think it seems too much? Thanks for your kind words coz. Cheers, Mark
3700
Hi, I had always thought the 3800 replaced the 3700. Thanks learn something new every day!
This 2
I would like to see a slim tourbillon only and a slim travel time only, both in blue.
Well, I don't know if they wish to bring a TT Nautilus next to the Aquanaut
but they may hear you wish though! As for the tourbillon, I must say I'm not a fan of them in sportier watches but, as they are usually only visible from the back, it may be a great combination in the end. We'll see! Cheers, Mark
Very nice report Mark.
Its a very iconic line for Patek. Slick & sexy , it really makes the wearer standout. Cheers Geross.
Exactly, without being show-off at all.
It also has this little 70's touch I personally love. Thank you Geross, not long to wait if Basel (otherwise a little later in the year). Cheers, Mark
40 years already!
Hi Mark, As I'm a great fan of the 5711, I hope it will reman unchanged. For celebration, I would imagine an Advanced Research 5711 version. But we're always surprised by Patek Philippe. Wait and see. Best regards Dje
So am I.
Djé, it is great to read your here! I have a 5712 but love the 5711 and always considered it wasn't "stupid" to consider having both. If it was stopped, I would really have to seriously think about it. I didn't see this that way but I realize you're right...
Hard to tell cory
I would say at least all the 4 elements from the 5550 but maybe with improved shapes? Would be a quite unique Nautilus limited edition. Cheers, Mark
As Amazing as always !
Thanks Mark for interesting as well as amazing report on the Nautilus line. It gave me details of my Nautilus 3710/!A which is plain but interesting. Will not be surprised to see new model but want to see with not much change to original/s. Anyway its jus...
As I answered earlier
I learned quite much too and it helped me placing the references in the timeline. I also think that what is existing currently shouldn't be touched but only replalced as a whole. Yes, less than a month if they decide to release the Nautilus 40th for Basel...
Nice overview of the Nautilus line
Looking forward to seeing the 40th Anniversary timepieces!
Mark, thanks a lot for your memorable report!
Good read, very interesting and detailed. Will come back here! For the 40th: Update the 5726 with a more sophisticated moonphase to it, and month and day window with a it of room to breath. Salutations Kolosstt
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Kolosstt for your compliments and we'll see if your wishes come true in the next few months (Basel or later). Cheers, Mark
Wild guesses only..
as we know it is almost impossible to guess what will PP unveil this time. If they will discontinue their 5980 line, then perhaps a new chrono might replace it using the 5170 movement. It feels unlikely they will discontinue their mainstay 5711 and 5712, ...
Indeed, it is always a tricky game
but quite educational about everyone's tastes and priorities. I thought at first I wouldn't see the 29-535 fitting into the Nautilus but after a while it may look good in such a case. I just wonder how the caliber's finishing (cote de geneve and edges wor...
Great Post ! My guess...
As a Nautilus 5712 owner, I think it should be discontinued after 10 years and maybe be replaced by a perpetual calendar ( the 5140 has already been discontinued) with the 240 ( both SS on bracelet or gold on strap ) That would be the star of the show... ...
I like your development!
It seems indeed that the progressive transition from 5980 to 5990 looks quite logical, so maybe some more move in that field (like 5960 towards 5905 in a way). Concerning the Nautilus, I've always been a steel + bracelet guy (even if I find straps models ...
Amazing post Mark!
So educational. I don\'t have any guesses, although many that I read make a lot of sense. The one that made me drool was the idea of a salmon dial 5711...or a grey one... That would be awesome. All the very best, Alex
It is interesting to see that the answers also mention simple models
and not only complicated ones. We often talk about the gorgeous blue dial and its very specific aspect (which imho places this dial at the top of the sport-chic ranking list) but for having seen the blacker dial on the 5726 for instance, I find it amazing...
Personally, I'd like to see...
a 5712/1A with the white dial. I also think a 5911? (larger case) would appeal to many who consider Patek too small. -Dean
The 5712/1A is indeed available in blue only
I must say the 5712 would look really good with this white color. It is already a quite sporty piece, though remaining elegant because of its thinness, but the white dial would be very pretty indeed. The second element is something very interesting. Many ...
nice thread
Personally I think PP will not discontinued 5712 or 5711 as they are still selling very well. (may be they will lower the number of production). The new line up will something stronger the Nautilus collection. A new PC would be my guess. White gold 5711/1...
Great post Mark !
I am proud I provided a reference picture for the 3800. Here are some more ...
It was a great surprise
when I was looking for pictures as well as a great find indeed, thank you! Do you still have it? Have a nice Sunday JF. Cheers, Mark
seeing Nautilus in boutiques is quite impossible....
getting one is even more so....better reading the old post ;-) i recently saw the new Nautilus Annual Calendar in secondary market is priced above the retail of Nautilus PC in WG !
