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Am I loosing my mind (...and my eye sight)...or did the seller actually shipped me an ultra rare ROSE gold 3448?
The vintage 3448 beauty arrived just a few hours ago. As I'm getting older my eyesight is not the best but my first reaction was that this was a rose gold and NOT a yellow gold watch, as it was advertised.
After I pulled out my other yellow and rose gold Patek watches (as well as a couple of rings), for comparison, Im even more convinced that it is rose gold.
I had couple of people to inspect all these watches pictured in the group in person and I also shared these images with a few other close friends that are collectors and everybody is telling me that it is Rose gold. What do you say?
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Am I loosing my mind (...and my eye sight)...or did the seller actually shipped me an ultra rare ROSE gold 3448?
The vintage 3448 beauty arrived just a few hours ago. As I'm getting older my eyesight is not the best but my first reaction was that this was a rose gold and NOT a yellow gold watch, as it was advertised. After I pulled out my other yellow and rose gold ...
Would it mention rose gold
on archive papers from Patek? I’d be ordering one pronto. Good luck.
Under Thierry et al...
It really doesn't seem possible, alas. Compare something like this to a 5320, and even the recent 8 days Calatrava and the design language seems...lost.
Aside from getting an Archive which I suspect will say if it is rose, you can Google “Patek __________ filling in the movement number and see if anything turns up.
Would love to see some higher resolution photos from different angles of the 3448.
Just to clarify.....the watch did not come with archives.
Of course, everything is absolutely kosher. The seller is a VERY well known and established reseller of estate jewelry and watches (decades of history and feedback) I have seen detailed pictures of the beautiful caliber 27-460 Q, serial number of the cali...
You could fly to NYC
and drop if off at the Henri Stern Agency because they will send it to Geneva without a doubt anyway. On the other hand flying to Geneva might be more fun.
Vintage, correct? It’s possible the red gold lost some its rosey color over a period of time
Giving it the appearance of yellow gold in present day.
Congratulations.
I found this interesting article about 3448 https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-reference-3448-senza-luna-in-depth
Read it before....GREAT article....thank you 👍
...... I must admit, over the last 2 weeks I have read every imaginable article and watched every imaginable video that there is on the internet 😎
Wow. Interesting to say the least.
May I suggest XRF testing. It is noninvasive, not too expensive, and you should be able to get someone near you to run the test. Would definitely tell you metal composition if yellow or rose gold. Good luck and please keep us posted ! - Sebastian
Huge congrats no matter
rose or yellow gold ! Placed next to the J's your 3448 does look like a R
It's getting late so no more natural light.... but even under the light bulbs.... it still looks RG to me
...... sorry but the moon phase is not set yet 😉 ...
If it turns out to be rose gold, as the photos suggest it is,
you would be owning the second known example of ref. 3448 in rose gold. As you have read, the Freccero recently sold as lot 74 at Phillips has been called "the only one known". Anyway, Patek Philippe and an XFR test will give you all the necessary informa...
Thank you, kindly.
I'm already ABSOLUTELY thrilled with the watch, whatever the metal it ends up to be.. If it's yellow gold, of course I'm perfectly all right with that. If it's Rose ...well, that would be something special for sure.
Late night, low light, low quality (first) wrist shot..
....the day started to change already. ...
The beauty of the 3448 is unique.
It fits your wrist perfectly and, for me, it outshines almost any other watch. Best, Emmanuel
Yellow gold can have up to 5-15% copper added. Rose gold needs 25% copper to look red.
Your fantastic 3448 is around 50 years old, and if a high copper alloy was used, then time will turn it more red. You said it is a highly reputable seller, where you bought your watch. I don't think that someone who makes a living out of selling watches a...
We are going to Europe already in early October.
Im going to tag on 2-3 days on that trip and drop off the watch in PP Geneva for service. I'll know what metal it is, as soon as they will present the estimate.
Congratulations,
A true gem and a pleasure to see, thank you for sharing. As for whether it is rose or not, I have no doubt it will still be as sweet. Enjoy it in good health.
Thank you. You are exactly correct.
I absolutely love the watch for its history, looks and how it fits on my wrist already. As far as which metal it is, that's just a short term mistery and curiosity for me.
I really love the 3448 - huge congratulations
It’s amazing how similar tastes we have in watches. What a gem and one i seriously consider adding after ive done some serious cleaning in my collection.
Most important welcome to the club, although if it is rose, your watch falls into a totally different and stratospheric category,
Great idea for it go to Geneva, to have it examined and serviced and to get an Extract. I hope you will let us know what they have to say. As you probably know a rose 3448 just sold at Phillips Geneva earlier this month. A rose 3448 is truly at the pinnac...
Thank you.
I like the gold dots as minute markers. I'm guessing mine is Gen II. Will see what the Archive papers will say as to what year it was made.
Thank you.
That's my frame of mind. If it's RG ...awesome. If it's YG....still VERY much on Cloud 9 👍
Lovely.
Im a huge fan of 5167. On the waiting list with my AD for 5167A or 5167R. I know I am one of the crazy ones ....but I think this watch would be just *incredible* on a rose gold bracelet.
Lovely piece, it does look more like rose gold
I don’t think the yellow gold case would patina that quickly. The jewellery so close next to those watches however makes me nervous haha.
Don't worry.
No jewelry was harmed while taking these pictures... 😆😆 On a separate note, what's really puzzling me that even if there was some patina on the case... what's striking is to me that the hands definitely do look Rose and clearly there WERE NOT nearly as ex...
