Patek Philippe

Two blue big hitter chronographs at comparable price point 5905: + Case with concave bezel 60 min counter Great heft Automatic Platinum Day/date 5172: + Movement/finishing Heritage Manual "Pure" "Future classic" What is your take? Recommendations? Thomas ... 

For me it’s no contest. But I have a deep love for manual chronos, so I might not be totally objective. I also prefer the seringue hands. In any case, best of luck in your choice. You really can’t go wrong either way. Cheers, David

For me too, manual chronographs are the epitome of horology. But still the 5905 is a mighty package for a small collection? 1-0 for 5172 then 😀

I'm guessing "no" 🤩 ...  

This is mine I still see a 5172 in my future... ...  

Where is JC when I need him?

Patek manual chronograph is hard to beat. Though I agree the combination of automatic chronograph + annual calendar + concave bezel + platinum case is also very attractive. Best, Henry

Interesting pattern.. There is certainly a shared DNA between them. + that concave bezel... Sadly the price doubles! 4-0 then ...  

1. Movement, a different level of watchmaking in my view also much more impressive to look at. 2. Proportions of the case (although with they kept it the same diameter as the old watch) 3. Dial is really classic and works so well in person. This is a watc... 

Nice to hear from someone who has seen 5172 in the real world (I haven't). I think I somewhat disagree on point 2). I find the case of the 5960 and 5905 absolutely sublime, whereas I found the 5170 case a little bit bland (though superb in other areas). 5... 

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How often you need chrono? How often date, day, month? WG gets yellow with time, platinum is always platinum. Best, Kari

1-5!! I have use for a chronograph almost daily, because I give lectures and host workshops all the time. It feels impolite to use my phone to check the timing, because I might come of as "distant". Also, I tell the attendees to put their phones away. Unf... 

and the colour has turned a bit towards yellow. The easy way of seeing it is to place the object next to platinum. Best, Kari

See picture taken at Bjerke With a free choice I'd probably go 5270 though ...  

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...and I’ve tried it on. Had I the funds I would jump on it in a FLASH. It is a stunning piece.

Would fit your collection well, Fram!!

The 5905’s height and diameter are a bit big for my wrist but the platinum is spectacular to look at! I seldom wear my 5930, too busy? The 5270 also spend a lot of time in the safe. Just picked up Lange’s version of the 5170, love the simple, no date layo... 

Thank you! I'm a former 1815 chrono 1 gen owner and I completely understand your choice. Movement side is certainly superior. Pushers as well. I prefer a white dial though, that they don't offer for some reason. Thomas

One is sportier and automatic and other is more classic and manual. Quite different even though similar at first glance. I would go 5170P personally..... but if choice is solely between these two then I would vote 5905 for its modern look and superior met... 

I've been waiting for you to weigh in! I was decided on the 5170P, but I was not able to fund it in time. I think my AD still has one though... 6-2 then. Thomas

Slim profile and beautiful dial makes it a stunner. Hour markets are tastefully done even if diamonds ... Good luck choosing!

Both my wrist: ...  

Double yes! 5170P all the way !

Chrono is pretty useless function and at least the 5905 has annual calendar. I am too lazy to wind a watch and havent yet had a metaphysical experience adjusting my watch or manually winding it ....P is always king of the metals

The 5905 chrono is very legible and more usable than most. P has a great heft. Thomas

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The 5172 lugs are stamped like the 5320 perpetual and ruins it for me, while I like the 5172 the 5905 would win out with it’s platium case, complications and automatic. IMHO the 5172 will never get to “future classic”...Jim

I don't think 5905 will rise to future classic either, but it's quite the package in sum! 7-4

...love the manual in-house movement and the hands are growing on me. It would be killer in platinum and/or with Breguet numerals. One can dream : )

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No real bad choice between the two! I like: The usefulness of the calendar function The heft of the platinum case ... and a little against the grain ... the automatic movement. Neither watch will be future "classics" ... but that doesn't mean they're not ... 

I'm thinking I'm similar ways as you... Hmm..

Last year I was torn between the 5905 (black dial) and the 5170 (white gold). Both are GREAT pieces. My collection includes an ALS 1815 chrono so I felt the 1815 ticked the box for "pure chrono" in the collection. So, to help with your decision I might su... 

I fully agree on the 1815chr, which I have owned before. Better finishing and nicer pushers for half price are some of the arguments in favor of that alternative! Thomas

To wrap up: Based on your feedback I'm now at 52/48 in favor of the 5905. The most important asset is for me the case and the material + of course the combination of functions. Both heavy hitters in the chronograph segment, equally loved by the Purist com... 

did not expect this outcome to be frank as the community here seemed far more in favor of the 5172 at first....

Purist community said the same 😅 To me it's all about what you're looking for and how you feel them on the wrist. For me particularly, with my current collection, I would go with the 5172. Remove the 5960 from my collection and 5905 would be my pick.

5960 is out of my collection now. That's an important reason for looking towards 5905! Thomas

Platinum heft + I prefer the 5905 hands. But I'm a huge 5960 fan. Have owned the A, and been very close to pulling the trigger on the grey P several times.

I find the 5905 the superior watch if you plan on wearing it frequently. Not only does it have very useful functions but it’s also automatic. 5172 being a manual wind is the emotional choice. Not practical but stunning to look at. Here’s the twist. White ... 

If I’ve to choose a pure chronograph, I’m sorry 5172G 🤐 1815 chronograph WG black dial or original Dato Pt has fabulous finished manually wound movements or if it has to be PP the a 5070G...imho Best, Mahesh.,

That’s the reason I also like the 5960A /G over the P. The hands make the watch more youthful like a elegant sports watch. If I wear formal suits on a regular basis which I don’t I’d probably go for the more elegant 5905.

...two totally different watches. No matter which watch you choose you can‘t go wrong. I would prefer the 5905 over the 5172 because of the brilliant combination of some very useful features, like the self-winding movement and the annual calendar. Further... 

more wearable, nice looking movement, overall just more classy.