Some say this movement is outdated, but I will take over most other automatic movements. Any day of the week..
By: ChristianDK : March 9th, 2018-15:25
This watch is core Patek to me. And your macros show it really hold up to close scrutiny. Attention to detail and still maintaining the overall design of slim, elegant and coherent. Yes, I really admire this watch.
Correct me if I'm wrong (please!) but there appears to be no hand-finishing or polishing of anglage on the movement plates, the sides of dial apertures, or the sides of hands (at a guess, Grand Seiko hands would wipe the floor with these Patek hands). The uneven text on the Geneva seal is interesting too. I might have expected this on an entry-level model but on a QP that retailed for what, $90k?
With the volume (Approx. 50,000 - 60,000pa) of watches that Patek is churning out now...
By: Dufourism : March 9th, 2018-17:48
I doubt they can cope with doing "quality" hand finishing on every piece of their movements. And by quality, I mean at the level of certain equivalent Geneva Seal pieces, say a Vacheron Constantin or even a Chopard L.U.C 1.96.
...J was thinking the same thing. Given the quantity they produce, PP has done an amazing job of maintaining their hallowed place in the market.
Nonetheless, I was expecting there would be a difference in finishing between your common-or-garden variety 240 or 315 in a base Calatrava or Nautilus (which we know to be have pretty industrial finishing) and the same movement in its much-more-expensive AC or QP guise (which, given the price increase, the everyday consumer might reasonably expect to be lavished with love and care by Swiss vestal virgins, or something).
Evidently, however, there isn’t. (Of course the minute repeaters and split-second chronographs do appear to get this.)
It would be VERY interesting to do a series of macro photos - same lighting and camera, same photographer, etc - showing the differences between different brands’ finishing at comparable price points...
Take a look at samwan's macros of his 5370P split seconds chronograph from a few days ago - that movement appears to be better finished than the 240Q movement in the 5140.
I have always been saying the movement finish on these Pateks are really just average, Dufour and Credor are on a different level completely. However it would be interesting to see how VCs and APs does it compare to Pateks.
Great observation! I wonder if perhaps the Geneva Seal is not applied by Patek themselves, but if the movements (or parts thereof) are sent off to the issuing authority and stamped there, then sent back to Patek. I could be wrong on this.
really really doubt , it s just like other indurtial certifications if you meet the criterias you are allowed to use it on your product and/or packaging. [nt]
speaking of "wiping the floor" - the same goes for the entire finishing of the movement, whereby Patek's movement would be wiped on the floor by Lange. [nt]