Officine Panerai

Was on the phone yesterday with a friend who is an expert on restoration. Got talking about "The Vintage References", and the chapter with the models that had an Angelus. Shown in the book were at least three differently finished movements with slight dif... 

as these caliber 240's were not 'found in storage'. They were sold to Panerai By F. Ferretti, so we have good documentation about them. They were not exactly 200 since there is a base movement and a module. I cannot remember the exact number, but I do hav... 

Love the debunking of these mysteries. I would love to see some photography of the old movements, or documentation as you say. Very curious of their state prior to restoration, and how these compare with the movements in Volker's book. The next question i... 

He's accumulated all the rare vintage PAM's many many amny years ago, and seems like he bought everything up when no one ever heard of Panerai. So why not buy up these movements too? I don't know Ferrerti and have never met him before, but if I knew what ... 

how much knowledge can be found on this forum...I suspected these were not just spare movments held by panerai....I think we must change your name to Asi007.....Nothing gets by you amigo..Best guillermo

Would like to know more about these " resurrected " movements... Best, Nicolas

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have any photos? Cheers

Hope you like them. BTW I read somewhere that the 150 pieces were made from 1,000 movements,,, Sam This message has been edited by samwan on 2009-06-08 18:38:28...  

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Thanks for sharing!

Yes, I'm impressed by the quality of your pics! As for the movements, I'm laughing... Well, from 150 movements, we go to 200, then to 1 000... First the 203, then the 267... The magic of Panerai, or the Mystery of the multiplication of the movements. Quit... 

there were 190 base movements and 200 modules sold to Panerai. Cheers, Asi

Asi you are just and plainly correct… as usual. Now with years of experience and knowledge, real hard works on the topic, often finding difficult to write lengthy paragraphs, but always engraving accurate and factual statements. The rest is about se... 

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Does this mean mean an ebauche vs complete movement?

...what I was wondering. Asi, What is defined as a "Base Movement" and a "Module"? Thanks in advance, Johnny Mac

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A clock movement with a back wound key would need a module to become a crown movement....  

Thanks, Guille and Asi.

came in some variations marked by a suffix letter. There were options for regular/alarm, crown/key winding and level of finish. The base movement was identical with added modules for the desired function. You must remember that this was primarily a table/...  

...in the photos above? The "Angelus" emblem in Sam's photo seems to be a little "rougher" or at least machined deeper versus Anthony's. Plus, the "FIFTEEN" in Sam's photo looks a little "stair-stepped" and Anthony's is "in-line". Maybe its the lighting a... 

the vintage Angelus 240 used in Panerai watches was not the decorated version and did not state '15 jewels'. Cheers, Asi

These movements were NOS. Panerai purchased them from F. Ferreti. Minor modifications done to them only, these movements are the same as Angelus provided with different modules for their travel clocks, caliber 240. There it is in three sentences! Thanks t... 

These 190 movements were sold by Ferretti in 1996 to pre-V Panerai (OP SPA). Cheers, Asi

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the thing that really bothered me was that those movements were sold for 57 euro EACH ! When i see what they ask for a 203 EVEN at list, I feel robbed Sorry, still love Panerai a Lot but a 57 euro movement in an 17.000 euro (listprice) watch is something ... 

If you start with adding value mate, you'll most likely pass on most of high end watches. Cheers, Asi

Why is a Picasso or Monet painting millions of dollars? The paint, brushes, and canvas only costs 50 bucks... - AT This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2009-06-13 09:02:02

you are absolutely spot on.

LOL.