nafetS
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Yeah, same here.
Jul 12, 2022,13:44 PM
The tantalum watch was up for reservation for 3-4 hours. I‘ve send in my reservation less than 10 minutes after the website going live. Also bought my first Grönefeld when delivery time was still 2-4 months and they were happy about every single customer. And now they‘re telling me being early for reservations didn‘t matter, but if i want a ss version, it‘s who pays first will get it first? No structure in the process at all. If they would’ve created a special ss version for those who missed out, i might have gone for it. But I agree with you, the common ss is not an appropriate replacment if you were sure to get a tantalum one. I will also not go for it.
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Grönegraaf Tantalum was heavily oversold. A raffle?!
By: nafetS : July 12th, 2022-12:05
So, it seems the tantalum version of the Grönograaf was up for reservation a lot longer than needed to sell 25 pieces. They‘ve written, that they’ve done a raffle to decide who gets a tantalum Grönograaf. Of course, that‘s easy to write, but can‘t really ...
If you bought the tantalum Grönograaf then that's what you should get.
By: enjoythemusic : July 12th, 2022-12:50
Seems like some brands, such as H. Moser, are doing these things to build a mailing list or ???? Obviously no one should be forced to settle for a stainless-steel version if you reserved tantalum. Personally don't feel this is a good business strategy, as...
I received the same email.
By: NautNut : July 12th, 2022-13:19
I can appreciate the demand for the tantalum but disagree with the process. I placed my reservation early in the morning as soon as I saw the notice from the brothers in my inbox. Being in the US I imagine the time difference put me at a disadvantage. May...
Yeah, same here.
By: nafetS : July 12th, 2022-13:44
The tantalum watch was up for reservation for 3-4 hours. I‘ve send in my reservation less than 10 minutes after the website going live. Also bought my first Grönefeld when delivery time was still 2-4 months and they were happy about every single customer....
Tough situation but I'm not against the lottery system.
By: Fastwong : July 12th, 2022-14:19
While a first come first serve approach might seem most fair, that also might lead to buying behaviors that perhaps they don't want to promote. For example, the MAD1 lottery was partly to deal with less supply than demand and also partly to try to change ...
Fair points, even though I do not fully agree.
By: nafetS : July 12th, 2022-14:44
The MAD one was designed to be a lottery from the very beginning. Everyone who applied for it knew, what they were in for. The Grönograaf preordering process didn‘t mention anything like this at any time until we received the email almost a week after sig...
Same here I’m afraid
By: Paoloj : July 12th, 2022-16:42
I celebrated too soon. Received the ‘raffle mail’ offering the SS compensation prize but not sure I’m going to take given I was particularly interested in the Tantalum (and pointing out that the SS is slightly lighter and probably more comfortable to wear...
That's not cool...
By: patrick_y : July 12th, 2022-16:59
Seems to me they're copying that MAD Edition RED watch from MB&F which was also raffled, but they announced this raffle thing too late after people already ordered the watch, whereas MB&F announced the raffle thing from the beginning when the watc...
Ahh, that too!
By: patrick_y : July 14th, 2022-16:45
Yes, in the past, on WatchProSite, we had elaborate raffles. I remember the Woo brothers would write down the names of members who entered the raffle, these names would then go on individual Post-Its that were all stuck to their living room wall. Then, th...
Plus 1
By: Watchonthewrists : July 13th, 2022-15:46
Sorry to hear
By: jmpTT : July 13th, 2022-11:48
The brothers won't find a one size fits all solution here, but a third case material is probably best. Too many of the recent independent releases have been sold out before they hit the public, so collectors will assume the same VIPs were accommodated in ...
Feels the Same…
By: MrTime : July 14th, 2022-08:49
I agree with you. Same situation, and feels exactly the same. Certainly v disappointed ☹️.
I understand your point...in deed it would have been better
By: mahesh : July 14th, 2022-13:30
nevertheless small companies often are learning by doing and most often the watchmaker is the one behind the communications not a specialist (I at least know this for fact with few Indies). I believe they'll learn from each mistake...like we all do.