Independents

Yes, your eyes aren’t playing mind tricks on you; it does say Laurent ferrier on the dial, and the caseback does say Phillips & Bacs & Russo Source of photos: phillipsperpetual on IG I welcome your comments, while I dig info on the case size and dial size...  

TimeZone EOT watch from 2004 Cazalea ...  

Spot on!

& very surprised by the french + english writings: FAB. SUISSE SWISS MADE ?????

Quite a cool obscure collaboration on this LF.

Very interesting. I found that true as well. There is resonance.

Here it is: www.google.com

What about collabs with watch clubs ?

Esp if it is from Watchprosite

the manufacturer a lot of money, only returning some good will back to a collector club that has supported them. So for the various watch clubs I'm fine with it; with the WPS collabs, I'm fine with those too. What I'm not fine with, are all those stupid H... 

Nothing wrong against that! I have heard that amoung watch nerds that their reputation has fallen! I appreciate what they are doing but their watches are way to simple for my taste. Having said that, beautiful movement but if I had to pick between LF or R... 

I don't mind that so much--those are good vibes! But LF does seem to spread themselves AWFULLY thin on the various limited editions...

LF has an issue with distribution and moving stock. These collabs will certainly help, Bc it puts the onus on the retailer (or, in this case, auction house) to do the marketing and pushing and selling

I had not considered/been aware of that side.

I heard something along those lines and that they had fallen in favour amoung watch collectors for that reason. Again, dont know to much as I dont follow the brand a lot as I am not the biggest fan but i heard scuttlebutt about some major problems/issues ... 

When those get fixed, I’d be happy to jump on. The prior quibbles were them being an assemblage watch company, as opposed to a true manufacturer. But many of the prominent indie’s are the same way, and no one has cried foul about the others.

Ya, i agree, for me, it is a lot more about how much can they make the watch their own and I def feel that LF has made a very distinctive watch. Having said that, sometimes I do feel that at a certain price point, I do expect a inhouse watch but not neces... 

RM has been moving more in-house, lately. Not an RM kinda guy, and definitely don’t have the budget for them, but they were always bound to put that money to good use. On the in-house front, duffour uses ready-supplied movements for the simplicity, and th... 

Especially about Philipe Dufour! I thought he handmade his watches? Lolz I did not know about that!

Hope someone can come help! I don't follow Philipe a lot either so don't know! Lolz

Not movements, just individual components. ...  

My impression was that Haldimann was someone more devoted to the watches-as-handicrafts ideal than Dufour is.

We could go into a very long discussion about this as handmade is a very ......complicated term in watch making! I am also curious tho if the handmade title can be given to people like Masahiro Kikuno or other such people (Christai... 

👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 I’ll let the masters of watch journalism delve into this long and complicated discussion

They are one of , if not the, best watch journals out there! will def check it out!

I think i heard something similar before! thanks for doing the reserach to find out! Now we know for next time!

And regarding RG: not many brands can match RG’s finishing. Maybe Greubel and Ferdinand Berthoud, but that’s it

Lol!

even brands collab with famous watch blogs starting from Hodxxkxx, Fraxxllx, Time&Txxx, Revxxxxxn, etc. It's all about making money, come on....be nice, everyone wants to have more $ in their bank accounts. In the end, only us, "the collectors", who a... 

You clearly having been sullied by the experience of witnessing the battles in the hodinkee comments section 🤣🤣🤣

But these watches are just superb. I am an absolute sucker for the hands of the black dialled one. They will be out of my reach and that is fine.

However in my opinion if they had a better water resistance an a screw down crown perhaps these would appeal to me a little bit more

I have a Longines heritage re-issue (which, in spite of being a rei-issue of an original naval watch, has only 30m WR 🤷🏿‍♂️) and am looking at Atelier de Chronometrie, so this particular LF does nothing for me. But it’s all subjective, isn’t it? 😁 ...