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Where you are born.......
Ling,
I agree with you.
If your watches are 'born' within the geographical canton of Geneva and reach minimum specifications for Geneva Seal, you should be entitled to it. That's the only reason to have a factory in Geneva.....apart from the nice lake and living condiitons 
We all have high quality watches that cannot garner a Geneva Seal because they are not made in Geneva.
Now, if watchmakers really want to prove the quality, timing and function of fully-cased watches in a destruction test, they should try for the Qualite Fleurier.......
Open to all who can afford the failure rate and damaged pieces, irrespective of where your factory is located. Spooky that not many brands try for a QF....eh?
Regards, MTF
This message has been edited by MTF on 2008-04-11 13:44:08
Patek to drop Geneva Seal & Vincent Calabrese no longer independent...
These two are buy far the most interesting "releases" of 2008. The first news is huge! While still not officially announced, rumours are abound regarding Patek dropping the Geneva Seal due to the recent admission of Cartier. The obvious questions are 1) W...
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"Will this create a hike in prices as collectors step over their own mothers to sweep up all the Geneva Seal pieces." That would surprise me. If only a few had the Geneva Seal it would be rare but didn't all the Pateks have that seal untill today ? [edit ...
Geneva Seal
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Where you are born.......
Ling, I agree with you. If your watches are 'born' within the geographical canton of Geneva and reach minimum specifications for Geneva Seal, you should be entitled to it. That's the only reason to have a factory in Geneva.....apart from the nice lake and...
Maybe Patek should go for Six Sigma...
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Swiss industry quotes the "fixed" return rate as
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Amazing
Wow this is serious news. I think the industry is finally waking up and doing things what brands like IWC, A.LANGE & SONE and many more, have done. I guess Senior Mr.Hayek would be happy Chao, luminor1950panerai