This is not new

May 09, 2019,21:44 PM
 

I experienced it first at grey dealers. They have a hot watch that was priced reasonably, but the caveat is I have to buy some other watches of theirs from a prevetted selection. And also with some retail brands like Hermes, where you need to buy a certain quota of goods before you will have access to their bags.

They are just tactics to drive sales, for the purpose of not appearing to gouge customers. May be the brands don't allow the retail owners to do huge markup in their contracts and this is the work around. For me, same dog, different fleas.

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I knew this day will come to me...

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-19:48
I've heard this before, but did not think that eventually it will happen in my AD. So, yesterday I was walking around in Mall, and stopped by my AD to put my name on waitlist for Sub 114060. I am not new customer, have been buying several watches from the... 

I think this AD is just trying to see how far he can push it, similarly to what he's probably been doing successfully for the last several years.

 
 By: FabR : May 9th, 2019-20:01
To be quite frank, for as long as people don't report these ADs and get their licensed revoked, this practice is going to continue (and escalate) forever, at the expenses of real collectors ;-)

I will not comment whether that iwc

 
 By: Teacher Yang : May 9th, 2019-20:09
Is a nice watch or not.. but I have doubts in this new policy which you need to buy a pre-determined watch. (Your AD choose for you?!) What the.. This doesnt make sense. Some AD do require you to buy a first R (at a price) to get a second R. But you get t... 

yes I was shocked to hear that they choose the watch for me

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-21:51
I have to buy a watch that I don't like. This is really an ugly scheme

They are creating a false market.

 
 By: JerryW : May 9th, 2019-20:33
This will not end well, we all have many great choices.

This is total B/S&$t.

 
 By: Bounce781 : May 9th, 2019-21:10
Do not participate in such a blatant market manipulation and do not buy from these ADs. Watches are a luxury product. They should be enticing US to buy it rather than us trying to coax THEM to sell. I refuse to participate in this. My $0.02

A straight premium or even a no-sale, I can understand...

 
 By: vitalsigns : May 9th, 2019-21:24
But make me buy a watch selected by the AD??? For some reason I find that way more offensive, and that AD could just go F himself. There’s no luxury product on earth I’d want enough to become a sycophant beggar and a slave to the seller. John

Yes. Actually I was quite angry , but

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-22:05
Then I think "why should angry?" There are many other brands with excellent value for money and much more interesting than a sub. Besides, I don't want to ruin my friendship with The salesperson. They just do what their boss say. So I just smile and said ... 

Unfortunately not here. This AD is the single AD for rolex.

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-21:53
The only other options is from grey dealer or fly too singapore

Can't agree more.

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-22:01
Next month I will go to Bangkok, and most likely will come home with a reverso Will post pictures when it happen.

Dont bother to fly to singapore for..

 
 By: Teacher Yang : May 9th, 2019-23:04
Popular models.. Serious..

Yay...thanks for reminding me

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 10th, 2019-01:59
Last month went to Shanghai, Beijing and Hong Kong...no sport rolex whatever...except air king and milgauss

This is not new

 
 By: nwk00 : May 9th, 2019-21:44
I experienced it first at grey dealers. They have a hot watch that was priced reasonably, but the caveat is I have to buy some other watches of theirs from a prevetted selection. And also with some retail brands like Hermes, where you need to buy a certai... 

I bet IWC just LOOOOVES that sales pitch (completely kidding)

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : May 9th, 2019-22:06
Time to find a new AD.

Ha ha ha...actually that portofino is not an ugly watch

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 9th, 2019-22:12
I am sorry if I wrongly expressed my feelings. But the design is not my taste. IWC do best in Pilots and Portuguese. I am pretty sure, however, the AD will choose the least popular models for this policy. So good for them. They also told me, even with thi... 

😂 [nt]

 
 By: Teacher Yang : May 9th, 2019-23:05

I would suggest to say goodbuy to the AD 🙋🏻‍♂️

 
 By: Watchonthewrists : May 10th, 2019-01:05
Imho this is BS . I will never pay a premium also for a sports watch like the big R . Please look arround and see if there is a othere watch that you like for a far price without al this nonsense

Absolutely right. At least for the moment I will not buy from this AD

 
 By: hoseachandra : May 10th, 2019-02:04
For example, JLC Reverso classic medium size they give me price USD 6100 after discount. I just called an AD at Bangkok airport, they will sell to me USD 5400....so much for a "good relationship" with my AD.

One more collector Licking wounds. It does hurt after spending a gud chunk of your dough at these dealers and then one day finding the relationship was never there. Diggin their own grave...

 
 By: redcorals : May 10th, 2019-07:09
...alienating loyal enthusiast or is it a clever mkt/sales strategy only time will tell. Meanwhile the world moves on. ...  

A certain amount of success in the rap game is the demonstration of ostentatious wealth

 
 By: NickO : May 10th, 2019-09:20
Nothing says “I’m a Boss” like a blinged out Patek. But while the taste level may be questionable to many, the only difference is it’s done more overtly. A watch as a status symbol and indicator of one’s importance is no different here than it is for the ... 

I actually tend to agree on the points both of you are making, as in general it's good if a brand like Patek expands its customer base, even when this may bring to uncharted territory...

 
 By: FabR : May 10th, 2019-10:53
I would have no big issue with these rappers or anybody else "showing off" their money or success, if obtained by honest means (in the sense that, right or wrong that this may be, it would remain their choice)... But what I found ridiculous here is that t... 

#1 is DJ Khaled and #3 is Offset

 
 By: NickO : May 10th, 2019-09:01
You know you wanted to know 😀

Redcoral, I've seen many fellow purists customize their timepieces...

 
 By: kennygfunk : May 10th, 2019-11:35
I've seen them swap dials; I've seen them engrave and initial; I've seen them swap out for aftermarket straps; I've seen DLC coating. In my opinion, adding diamonds (dial, case, bracelet) is just another level of customization to meet someone's personal t...