Resonance : It’s temperamental

Mar 31, 2020,05:56 AM
 

We all know that not every Resonance has worked as intended for their owners


Several members here have had that direct experience, and for certain it must be frustrating. 


I’ve also heard stories of others with similar issues, important collectors and customers of Journe.  The Resonance does not discriminate! 


Talking to some of this temperamental behavior of the Resonance, F.P. has said that for the watch to work the tolerance for even the tiniest of errors or deviations in the initial assembly is very very low, more so than any other movement. 


Each balance wheel must deviate by less than 5 secs in all six positions.  


The shape of the balance spring must be almost identical.  Every setting must be precise.  


If one component part, or gear, is not to standard the this risks the entire system.


Again, this may seem obvious and intuitively it should be the case for all watches.  But Journe stressed that for the Resonance these sensitivities were amplified.  




In general my take away from any interaction with Journe is that sometimes it’s more art than science, by that I mean he often responds in generalities instead of details, a little vague perhaps when you really want specific answers.  


But that was always the charm here; if I wanted graphs and data on chronometric performance of a single tourbillon versus a double versus a triple versus an inclined double then I can go ask Stephen Forsay and he’d have a presentation, numbers , graphs and all, right there in his pocket.  (This is not a slight on GF, horses for courses that’s all).


I’m genuinely excited to see the new Resonance despite the fact that I will never own one (unless I somehow win the Powerball, National Lottery, Lotería Nacional, Mark Six etc).  This in itself is unusual for me as once something is out of range I generally pay little attention (and that has been true for other Journe watches too).  But this one is different because for me the Resonance is Journe.  Not the CB, the Resonance. 


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I have not paid much attention to the Resonance.

 
 By: K-Lo : March 31st, 2020-06:08
Much too reserved in my emotions about not being able to attain a CB Bleu. Well, the movement does not disappoint!

I think we would all urge you to look beyond the CB.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-11:00
The CS as Christian points out below is a fantastic piece. If you could find a dial that appeals to you then I’ve no doubt it could be a core watch in your collection. My bias is towards PT, as it will be more versatile (like the CB). The dial choice is u... 

Let me know if you're in Thailand

 
 By: batholith : April 1st, 2020-22:58
and we'll go see the distributor and see if something can be done about the CB. Good folk.

Great post, Jay

 
 By: Brandon Skinner : March 31st, 2020-06:14
Resonance always seemed to be a little hocus pocus in my highly unscientific mind. I have my doubts but I’m certainly glad it exists and is there for the collector’s who want it.

I can only offer a sample size of one, and from that it would appear to be a pretty consistent party trick.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:58
But you are of course right in your last statement. The joy here is in there being something for everyone, and all of us taking a slightly different path.

Superb post Jsy!

 
 By: sham1 : March 31st, 2020-06:29
The Resonance is a great idea but for me a watch must be reliable and accurate. Despite being the signature Journe, after reading the mixed reviews on the Resonance. I can imagine it can be quite stressful to own. Watches for me are designed to provide pl... 

I can only say that my ownership has been stress free, with all four Journes.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:55
And as Christian and Spangles point to below, over the years reliability has improved significantly.

That is so reassuring to know Jay!

 
 By: sham1 : March 31st, 2020-22:34
I love my Elegante but then again as it is a quartz, I don't expect any issues.

Nice post, Jay.

 
 By: ChristianDK : March 31st, 2020-06:29
I agree and I disagree with your statement. It can be a temperamental piece. However my feeling is this is particularly true for the first generation, if it is not well adjusted and still it can drift. My personal belief is it was constructed to an other ... 

I had the same impression. Several first-run FPJs have had their growing pains.

 
 By: Spangles - Dr. Tabby : March 31st, 2020-09:51
On the other hand, the first year's CBs are good. Good post, Jay, the resonance is a special watch and I have a feeling that the new resonance will be very special indeed. Still, one could say that every Journe is really Journe, his heart and DNA manage t... 

Yes, yes. Almost always identifiable design language.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:54
I too am expecting greatness from the new iteration. I just wish it would be 1/2 or maybe 1/4 of the price!

That’s a very fair point of clarification Christian (and Spangles below) re it’s temperament across iterations.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:52
Much of the issue with adjustment does seem to be on earlier pieces, although I don’t believe it was solely confined to those pieces. And in all cases and at all times, I’m a big fan of the CS too. Maybe the most underrated Journe.

Great post

 
 By: toxly347 : March 31st, 2020-06:43
FPJ Resonance captured me as well years ago, when I was a 90-hour-per-week trainee hardly making ends meet. That fascination is forever young.

It’s a great thought, “that fascination is forever young” if I interpret it properly.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:46
Did you ever acquire one? It might seem that the watch would come with high expectations given the association you note with a time in your life.

I do not own a FPJ..

 
 By: toxly347 : March 31st, 2020-11:21
.. but i remember well the fascination with the chronometre a resonance and in general with FPJ's timepieces. Although I came close, I actually never acquired one of his creations, and yet the fascination for those watches is just as it was.

Great post, Jay

 
 By: mj23 : March 31st, 2020-06:56
Resonance is one of my favorite Journe pieces.

Thank you. [nt]

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:43

I love my Resonance. That is all.

 
 By: cmmnsens : March 31st, 2020-10:21
Great post Jay

Love is all you need.... [nt]

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-10:43

Great post Jay. And a breath-taking photo as well.

 
 By: Lankysudanese : March 31st, 2020-12:18
Having only followed FPJ since 2012 or so, I can’t say that I see one particular timepiece as the quintessential ‘Journe’ timepiece. That’s what makes him a living legend. From the CS to the CB to the Resonance to the Centrigraphe to the Optimum to the Va... 

Thanks Hussam. As Christian says, there are merits to many pieces being THE Journe.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : March 31st, 2020-17:57
All opinions are subjective of course. Hopefully the CB will come soon. That is in itself is enough Journe and is hard to beat,

😊 [nt]

 
 By: Lankysudanese : March 31st, 2020-20:52

Very thoughtful post.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : April 1st, 2020-17:30
There was a time when I’d have agreed this to be the quintessential Journe. Wasn’t it his first “mass-produced” piece? But like Christian said-every Journe is quintessential; iconic. Maybe not the Perpetual? But every other is just so unique. So easily di... 

If it’s only purpose was to get you to the Centigraphe and Optimum then it did a good job!

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : April 1st, 2020-18:18
Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts, I did recall you were one of several I knew that had issue with the Resonance and I did think it was a newer piece. As FP said, and Christian mentioned above too, if not regulated carefully it’ll be an issu...