FP Journe - LINESPORT Automatique Reserve Titane. Sans rubber.

Sep 05, 2019,11:46 AM
 

I had a chance to try this piece a few days ago. The model - Automatique Titane - you probably already know it. However, you may not have seen this updated version without the rubber inserts on the bracelet. It has not yet been shown on the FPJ website and had just arrived from the Manufacture.




The aesthetic expression has changed quite a lot with the outphasing of the rubber inserts on the bracelet. I think the expression has become much more calm and more coherent. So to my taste, an improvement. Others may feel unhappy about this change, as it is always the case.






The Titanium bracelet is extremely pleasant to wear. and despite all the metal, this watch is still super light and well balanced on the wrist.

The bucle is a butterfly type with ceramic balls to secure the the click. it feels very well constructed and firm in its handling.




An other significant  detail is that the former rubberclad crown has been replaced with a high polished titanium crown. I really love this detail with the polished accent against the dark titanium case.





The rubber bumper has been replaced with a piece of high polished titanium. The bumper now is conceptually a "leftover" from the former idea. It gives a very nice highlight in the dark, matte grey. It makes think of the chrome trim on an old vintage car. Not nessesary, but it pleases the eye. Of course it would never have been added if there wasn’t been a rubber bumper to begin with. 







A hidden but amazing detail is the crazy construction of the bezel. The negative space has been milled out around the numbers. (quite deep - I have seen it myself) and then afterwards the bezel is filled with a black ceramic material. This is something typical of FPJ. Not a simple solution but a high quality bezel that will last a lifetime.



The movement is the tried and tested 1300.03 in the latest iteration. The Bridges and rotor are made of Aluminium. I handled a bare movement at the manufacture and it is super feather light!!! this matches the idea of a sturdy sportswatch very well.






I love how the monocrome look of the dial, case and bracelet all come together as one package. It seems like the perfect stealth piece that can handle everyday use and match many situations, while still being a high end chronometer. 

One issue I have though, is the water resistance of only 3ATM. While it will probably be OK, I still feel a watch in the sports watch category should have a better WR for piece of mind.  





Buckle detail. The buckle is nice and flat so it doesnt protrude from the bracelet.






It is super stealthy and comfortable on the wrist



















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Very nice!

 
 By: Spangles - Mr. Tabby : September 5th, 2019-13:02
If it helps, the WR is tested to 5atm, but rated at 3, so it could really go to 30m underwater if one wished.

Thank you.

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-13:25
A 3 ATM test is a theoretical pressure test. The watch industry generally says that 3 ATM test is equivalent to shower prof. There has been a lot of posts about this issue in the past. I suggest you do a forum search. You can also read a good post by Mike... 

a very cool piece

 
 By: keks : September 5th, 2019-14:17
and I too welcome the rubber less version.... even though I think I prefer the size of the earlier line sport... wr on a sport watch should be at the very minimum 5atm but ideally 10atm... otherwise I find it difficult to categorize as sports... but that ... 

Thank you for your kind words, Keks

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-23:17
Hope all is well with you my friend. I was hesitant about thie size of the LINESPORT as well but I think if you look at the last pictures I posted, it looks harmonious and works well. (Mind you, my wrist is bigger than average.) I suppose the missing lugs... 

dial versus movement

 
 By: vuillaume : September 13th, 2019-00:30
Curious? The movement and movement size has stayed the same through all three iterations? With the changes being in the dial ( larger display date ) and also the addition of a ceramic numbered bezel?

This is my feeling also. [nt]

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-23:18

Well done, Christian.

 
 By: DruidPadj : September 5th, 2019-15:21
Thorough. The rubber didn’t bother me except on the crown so getting rid of that feature is desirable. And isn’t it light as a feather?! Is this the 42mm? And what’s your opinion of gray vs. yellow?

Thank you so much, my Druid friend

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-23:37
The rubber will definitely have it’s fans. It was an original and fun idea when it was conceived with the Aluminum cases. The aesthetics is a question personal taste. I tend to have a taste form simple designs (less is more approach) while others like the... 

DeWalt or Black & Decker?

 
 By: DruidPadj : September 6th, 2019-06:09
I use DeWalt when I bore. Guess that means I would choose the yellow dial.

I used to use DeWalt

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 6th, 2019-08:12
But I gave it to my wife. Now it’s Makita only!

Big improvement IMHO

 
 By: jmpTT : September 5th, 2019-15:28
Thank you for the photos and review!

My pleasure:-)

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-23:39
I feel the same. Thank you for your kind words.

I absolutely agree, PLM

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 5th, 2019-23:43
Once I saw the work that goes in to that bezel I was in love. And it really gives a nice topping off to the architecture of the case. The question of size is such a personal issue. However, I think in my last pictures it looks correct on the wrist? Thank ... 

The fitting looks great on the second last. :D

 
 By: Pour le Mérite : September 6th, 2019-07:23
It’s weird... I’m very open about avant-garde but when it comes to size I’m pretty conservative, though I have 18.5 cm circumference.

Yes I agree.

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 6th, 2019-08:39
My rule is I only by 38-40 for modern watches but this is different due to the missing logs. The dial is quite a pizza plate though 😜

Christian, thanks as always.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : September 6th, 2019-03:09
It took me several years to appreciate the original design, but not the Sport line is something I would seriously consider. I had a chance to try these on earlier in the summer but the larger diameter has just pushed things slightly beyond my comfort leve... 

My pleasure, dear Jay :-)

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 6th, 2019-08:36
Thank you so much for your great input and thoughts. It is very interesting what you say about case size and your Urwerk, because that was something that would scare me a bit. That’s also why I never tried one on, probably. Conceptually and as design obje... 

Servicing

 
 By: vuillaume : September 12th, 2019-23:17
does this mean that when it comes time for service - a prior generation ( what is it? version 2) titanium line sport could be returned to the owner without the rubber inserts and updated with the TI insert?

Im sure they would have rubber spare parts.

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 12th, 2019-23:21
In my experience they are typically quite careful about the details.

Gorgeous [nt]

 
 By: Mikesr  : September 7th, 2019-18:51

i tried the 44 when i was in beirut

 
 By: Mohannad (aka Riddler) : September 12th, 2019-03:37
amazing piece and the new subtle changes they made with the Ti replacing the rubber makes it pop more

Yes it does. Great don’t you think?

 
 By: ChristianDK : September 12th, 2019-23:24
How are your feelings about it compared to the rubber inserts? You have first hand experiences 🤗

I love the watch.

 
 By: M4 : September 13th, 2019-18:24
Your photos capture it well. Thank you. M4

Thank you so much 😊 [nt]

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 10th, 2019-23:34

website

 
 By: vuillaume : October 10th, 2019-04:22
I do see the website has been updated www.fpjourne.com I did ask my local boutique about the watch and they said they might not have it in till mid 2020. Has anyone else seen the watch at their boutique?

A Great Review and Set of Photos!

 
 By: IndieFan : October 10th, 2019-16:56
Thank you for taking the time to share these photos and your thoughts. I really love the move to non rubber, but like many, I also prefer the Souverain collection over the LineSport collection. I do see a lot of effort being spent on the LineSport collect... 

I fully concur

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 10th, 2019-23:41
I also like the more simple expression without rubber. What I would also love to see is improvement on the water resistance. It would be a “nice to have” for piece of mind. This watch is so light and comfortable. I can definitely see a potential for it. I... 

I felt it was qiute sturdy and relaible.

 
 By: ChristianDK : October 21st, 2019-12:40
At least as much as my nautilus, or my JLC - but not tough as a Rolex.

Thanks, I guess my point was also.....

 
 By: Rapwatch : October 22nd, 2019-04:00
...does it require a positive unlatching rather than just a 'pull'.

Coating?

 
 By: PinPa : January 3rd, 2020-06:08
Hi Christian, thank u for the wonderful and informative post! Are u familiar with the coating on these watches in regards to technique (PVD, anodized?) and durability or scratch ability? Although I enjoy the appearance of darker coatings, I have always be... 

Good question

 
 By: ChristianDK : January 3rd, 2020-09:53
I have had the same concern and I asked about it at the manufacture. The Titalyt is not a coating but similar to oxidation of the surface metal where it becomes very hard. So the grey goes in to the titanium. I asked how scratch resistant it is. I was als... 

Oxidation layer

 
 By: PinPa : January 4th, 2020-15:48
Hi Christian, thank you for the response. Very interesting. I'd also love to hear from the Elegante owners as well! Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

Thanks for the great review

 
 By: NML77 : January 6th, 2020-02:01
The rubber inserts didn’t bother me but I do prefer this version. I think it is a very nice watch and comfortable to wear. I still would prefer the smaller case size but the 44 is still very wearable because of the absent lugs.

My pleasure :-) It made a real impression on me

 
 By: ChristianDK : January 6th, 2020-04:53
And when I look atr the pictures again today, I can still sense how nice this new version is. As you can see the 44 mm was not a problem and the Ti made it very light and comfortable. Dont be too scared about the 44mm!

Alloy...

 
 By: keks : January 12th, 2020-04:02
I have been told by the boutique that the new Octa line uses a titanium alloy and not titalyt as in the Elegante.... I hope this is correct and if anyone knows differently please do share, it could very well be the staff is misinformed..

Hi dear friend. I can look in to it.

 
 By: ChristianDK : January 12th, 2020-14:11
Next time I talk with Geneva I will ask them. My understanding was titalyt which pr definition is pretty close to a titanium alloy as it is a treatment of the titanium surface and not a coating on top. I will get back to you, once I know more.

Thanks

 
 By: keks : January 13th, 2020-04:35
It is quite possible it was lost in translation but when I asked the staff whether it was a surface treatment I was told it was an alloy and the color of the metal would be same even inside... on a bracelet watch these things can matter as the metal parts... 

✅✅

 
 By: Mikesr  : January 6th, 2020-17:40
I wish I could trade mine. I have the rubber one. Had to send back because rubber on crown fell off. Yours looks much more sturdy . Congratulations

Sadly not mine...

 
 By: ChristianDK : January 7th, 2020-09:25
This was just a try at the boutique but I went from not interested to very, very interested. I think, it was the removal of the rubber that changed it. It is also my favorite in the Sport Line.