Thanks for your insight. Seems like a reasoned analysis.

Jun 13, 2023,01:44 AM
 

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Saw the new Breguet Type XX in the flesh (long rant) . . .

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-01:24
Well, I’ve had some time to digest the new Breguet Type XX and Type 20. Last Tuesday, I kept checking Instagram and every watch site you can imagine impatiently waiting to see the new release. Then, to my surprise, they didn’t release just one, but two pi...  

Agreed on all your points

 
 By: JBC : June 13th, 2023-01:58
I could've made this post myself, I'm so baffled that brands are so misinformed about their clients. Who's a potential buyer of a Breguet Type XX/20 if not the enthusiast? And to make things even worse, they had it right with the "Only Watch". Is like the... 

I understand they want to expand their customer base, which should be an objective for all businesses.

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:05
But you need to maintain ‘existing’ customers and why take actions (i.e. risks) you know will alienate them??? They made a great decision to introduce two new releases. Once again, target one for existing enthusiasts and target the other for potential cus... 

Thanks Mark!

 
 By: Esharp : June 13th, 2023-03:11
I’m honoured for the shout out re the strap! I think you make really good points, not just about the date that everyone is complaining about, but also about the way the dial is balanced. Or, more correctly, not balanced. And the way the case fits on the w... 

No problem, my friend!

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:08
Thanks to you, I learned both of these releases had this feature. That what makes this such a great site!🥂

We all agree

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : June 13th, 2023-05:13
It was a tough mission to disappoint the collector's world. They succeeded. I always wonder who's buying any Breguet from their current catalogue...

Such as this one? 😁

 
 By: @lberti : June 13th, 2023-05:50
...  

Although they did disappoint us collectors . . .

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:20
But I know a collector among us acquired one thanks to last weekend’s WristScan!😉 I’m happy for him that this new Type XX made his ‘heart tick’ and he pulled the trigger. We have a diverse group of collectors on this site and the last thing anyone should ... 

😂🤣😂

 
 By: Mach : June 14th, 2023-22:48

;) ;) ;)

 
 By: amanico : June 15th, 2023-07:20

Thanks for your thoughts Mark.

 
 By: GWIS : June 13th, 2023-05:41
The watches look better in the videos I have seen of them. In the comments to the WatchAdvisor video the host, Alexander, says that they will release a version without the date. Personally I like a date on watches but the implementation here does not look... 

We can only hope, Jon!

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:28
And to be clear, I don’t ‘hate’ what I saw. But after the two Only Watched and let’s not forget the two LE Type XXI 3815’s, I thought this would be the year. So, I will continue to wait it out! Cheers, Jon!🥂

It is a bit unfortunate

 
 By: Arronax : June 13th, 2023-05:46
But in the end vote with your wallet, I just took my hard earned money to another brand.

I usually refrain from complaining at length about watches (new releases) if I don't like them.

 
 By: MTR : June 13th, 2023-06:08
And I dislike a lot of them! 😁 And: as we all know, there is no arguing about taste. Yesterday I had the opportunity to examine both watches, just behind the display of our Breguet shop (it was evening and after opening hours). Both models were excellentl... 

Breguet did get people excited as one will see across the various forums and watch sites!

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:36
Unfortunately, it appears mostly negative. But there are many ‘stealth fans’ staying quiet and saying to themselves, “I can actually acquire a piece!” I’m with you,Thomas, on the execution of the new Marines. I did see a NOS Marine 5817 that I’m seriously...  

The sales will tell the story

 
 By: jmpTT : June 13th, 2023-07:03
Breguet is assuming that for every Purist client who is turned off by the sloppy design, there are a hundred other potential clients who are not overly critical. These potential clients will appreciate the heritage and accept that such a prestigious brand... 

The sales data will definitely tell the story about their success at the end of the day!

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:40
I have to be careful. They may finally give the enthusiasts the Type XX/20 we want. But will it be LE and unobtainable . . .

Cheers, Yacomino!🥂

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:45
Hopefully, you are slowly overcoming your ‘horofatigue’ my friend. Stay safe!

Sloooowly but surely! Cheers my friend

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : June 14th, 2023-22:50

Don’t get me wrong, I can think of a lot of other watches that look worse IMHO!

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:54
But I feel the one I truly want is just around the corner if I can remain patient!🤞

Downhill here

 
 By: TeutonicCarFan : June 13th, 2023-12:59
Both the marine and this pilot watch. Maybe I'm wrong.

Let’s hope you’re wrong! I’ve made many missteps . . .

 
 By: Mach : June 13th, 2023-23:57
In the journey of life! But I’ve acknowledged and owned my mistakes by taking responsibility and making the proper corrective actions. Let’s hope Breguet follows suit! 🥂

I am sick of brands upsizing for no reason whatsoever

 
 By: andrea~ : June 13th, 2023-15:25
And I am sick of CEOs ruining their catalog by being completely out of touch. Why can't there be more CEOs like Vigneron or Dufour?

CEO Lionel a Marc’s appears to be more of a risk taker than we would like!

 
 By: Mach : June 14th, 2023-00:00
As a result, the initial test flights appear to have experienced extreme turbulence over the last week!🥂

A major missed opportunity by Breguet

 
 By: Watches&Men : June 13th, 2023-15:31
Hopefully they will make minor tweaks in the designs… another famous brand, starting with ‘R’, actually made changes to maxi case design, case size and even length of hour/minute hands after much negative feedback from the watch community. They may get it... 

I, too, anxiously waited for the release. But the upsized case was a big no, and then the date wheel killed it for me.

 
 By: cholack : June 13th, 2023-16:03
This CEO and design team really have lost touch with their true fan base. A complete debacle in my opinion. Best Cholack

A part of me is hoping that they planned . . .

 
 By: Mach : June 14th, 2023-00:04
To release a smaller edition for the enthusiasts. But they delayed it due to technical difficulties. At least we can hope, Cholack!🥂

This watch breaks the record!!

 
 By: Motty : June 13th, 2023-16:29
No one on this forum bought 🤣🙈 In all seriousness the watch is terrible, they should of put a moon phase somewhere in between these numerals and date, with Swiss made, and advertise it on Hodinkee, wait they already did it 🙄

Hahaha, good one!

 
 By: amanico : June 13th, 2023-16:44

I'm positive we will see the new Type XX without a date but...

 
 By: BigFatPauli : June 13th, 2023-16:38
It will be a unique piece for OnlyWatch

I wouldn't be surprised if we see a no date model.

 
 By: quattro98 : June 13th, 2023-17:46
I think Breguet is aware of the poor reception this has received. Their CEO has been making videos and giving interviews, which is probably damage control. WatchAdvisor states there will be a new model. youtu.be WatchAdvisor video youtu.be Breguet... 

Definitely!

 
 By: amanico : June 14th, 2023-06:34

Thanks for your thorough report on the type XX❣️👍🏻☺️

 
 By: MCG (Markus) : June 13th, 2023-18:06
What I find astonishing: -there is plenty of place for the date or the „swiss made“ or both at 6! -they did this before!!! It was nice, if you like a watch with a date (as e.g. me) … and they did it otherwise… 😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️

I have an appreciation for the central seconds chrono versions

 
 By: ifraher : June 13th, 2023-18:58
Yes very busy and the movement feels a touch small given how much space there is between registers and inner case dial side, but they work. The 42mm with the even larger numerals from maybe 2016 (feels much shorter) I actually quite like, Also lets not fo...  

I simply don't understand the design at position 4-5.

 
 By: lm6 : June 14th, 2023-11:50
I never like a date at position 4:30, but here it is really bad design! The 4 and the 5 are vertical. The number in the datewindow is angled downward left. The text "Swiss made" is angled downward right. Three angles of text/numbers in that cramped space....