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AP Jumbo dial flaw

 

Good evening, friends

Two weeks ago I was lucky to receive a new AP 15202. I have been pursuing this very watch for about three years and finally I got it. The reason was quite simple: I wanted to get a legend with the state of art movement.

When I was flying recently and got quite a lot of time to burn I decided to admire the beauty of the watch. When I looked closer in the dial I noticed that the minute marks were a bit asymmetrical. To be honest this is first time I see any dial flaws in expensive Swiss watches. I own a quite small collection including JLC, Harry Winston and Van Cliff apart from AP. And all the dials there are absolutely fine.

As you may see in the pictures the right mark (the 1st minute) is located further than the left mark (the 59th minute). The difference it slim but as the process is automated there shall be no difference. The rest of the marks are also a bit asymmetrical.

So the question is: is it a common practice? I supposed that AP should deliver flawless quality, especially in a quite simple 2-hands watchsmile

PS As I am quite new to the forum I would like to say it is brilliant and full of true watch admirers.







Best,
Alexey

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it is indeed a bit asymmetrical..

 
By: kunmoo : January 17th, 2016-14:55
I wonder whether it is noticeable with bear eyes. I think it could be. and I really wonder what AP would say about this. I really hope AP provides you with satisfactory answer to this.

I do see the minor separation difference. It is barely noticeable and you have a good eye.

 
By: BABKA : January 17th, 2016-20:10
If it bugs you, email AP. It may always be in the back of your mind later down the line. So, better to inquire about this now. In general, yes there can be flaws if you look up close at any brand. Although, I know some brands have much better quality cont... 

Superb eye for details. I think you should ask AP about this

 
By: reficul_x : January 18th, 2016-03:40
and maybe the rest who has this same watch should chime in. Perhaps it's a batch issue or just your unique piece. And maybe worth more if anyone see this as a particular interest.

IF it is, I wouldn't worry about it. The watch is a beauty. Enjoy

 
By: pastaboy1939 : January 18th, 2016-06:35
I have one also. This message has been edited by pastaboy1939 on 2016-01-18 06:36:40

Wow, the fact that you caught that is amazing!

 
By: NickO : January 18th, 2016-09:10
I would never have spotted that! My first question is, how are the indices applied to the dial? If they are applied using a machine, they should be perfect. If they are applied by hand by a skilled watch maker, there will be a margin for imperfection. The... 

Applied indices

 
By: templetowers : January 18th, 2016-14:36
As the minute markers would all have been applied at the same time using an automated application I would assume that the the applied indices at 12.00 have been added very slightly out of alignment. If it;s talking to you all the time then I would speak w... 

I suggest contacting the point of sale to begin with.

 
By: MichaelC : January 19th, 2016-10:33
Call the selling dealer or AP Boutique and explain your situation. I feel that it will likely fall under what any manufacturer dubs an "acceptable tolerance" but keep us posted with what you find out. It is strange, when I look at your photo I see this mi... 

Emotions

 
By: Alex25 : April 3rd, 2017-01:28
I have been trying to solve my dial problem with Russian AP service for the last 3 weeks. They did their best to do the utmost minimum and show total ignorance and lack of proper client support. I\'ve received an answer (on paper) claiming that AP dials a... 

Hand painted dial using a 'Pad Printing' machine

 
By: Ancienne Le Brassus : April 3rd, 2017-23:32
The technique they are referring to is that the dial is placed on a steady plate and then, using a hand operated press, the paint is pressed onto the dial. In theory, with the production numbers that AP produces of these, there shouldn't be much error in ... 

Thanks!

 
By: Alex25 : April 4th, 2017-01:08
I didn\'t know that. Thank you! It is always interesting to find out something new. Though I shall disagree a bit. Most of the parts used in modern watches (AP is not an exception) are not made by hand. They are machined. And it is great news as those com... 

Maybe check with other AP owners.

 
By: jomni1 : April 3rd, 2017-02:05
Check if this is common with AP and the model involved. But since all the hour markers have asymmetrical distance to minute markers, maybe it\'s intentional.

It is an exclusive product

 
By: Alex25 : April 3rd, 2017-02:12
I should disagree. This is an exclusive product from one of the top luxury brands. If you pay around €22000 for a steel watch with 2 hands and date everything must be perfect. Checking other watches, comparing them and comforting yourself that an issue is...