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Patek or Lange?
Dear All,
I have been mulling around the past few months about these two watches:
1. Patek 5970P
2. A Lange & Sohne Datograph Perpetual 410.025
I currently own the A Lange & Sohne 1815 Hommage to Emil Lange in Platinum and no Pateks... Everyone around me is telling me to go for the Patek but...
PP5970P
Loves:
- the overall symmetrical aesthetic look of the whole watch
- could be my very first Patek
- retains its high value
Dislike:
- Black dial again?!
- Date seems to be difficult to read in low light
A Lange Sohne Datograph Perpetual
Loves:
- the movement
- the Rhodie dial
- the red number "4" for 4th leap year indicator
- the blue second hands
- well, more price-friendly than the Patek
Dislike:
- small MP
- good investment?
- Lange again?!
- not as recognized in my country
Based on the list above, there are few things that I like and few things that I dislike from the Patek. And in retrospect, there are MANY things that I like and many things that I do not like from the Lange.
Well, any idea, comments, inputs would be greatly appreciated... 
(Also posted in the Patek forum)
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Patek or Lange?
Dear All, I have been mulling around the past few months about these two watches: 1. Patek 5970P 2. A Lange & Sohne Datograph Perpetual 410.025 I currently own the A Lange & Sohne 1815 Hommage to Emil Lange in Platinum and no Pateks... Everyone around me ...
Big date
I have also responded to you on another web site. One thing that is generally overlooked in this discussion is the usefulness of the Lange big date. A chrono/perpetual is crowded, no matter which dial you prefer. Big date makes it very easy, even for pres...
You should avoid the investment and recognition aspects.
Nobody has a crystal ball to read into, and to know which watch in general will keep its value. Therefore, about Recognition, if this factor is very important, go for Rolex watches, only, not Lange nor PP, as Rolex is wolrdwide known, at the contrary of t...
The best moonphase of them all is in this VC!
Great suggestion Nicolas! This is one of my favorite modern Vacheron Constantin pieces. That hand carved moonphase makes this a unique piece.
This one is in my mind for a long time, now, Patrick.
Less hype than on the PP 5970, a superb moonphase, beautiful lugs, grained dial ... That is strange that people don't generally think about this one when it comes to Perpetual Chronos. Best, Nicolas.
A pity indeed...
One of my favorites when it comes to perpetual chronos. In my opinion... The Lange Datograph Perpetual has the most superb movement. The quick correction feature is also very user friendly. The Patek Philippe 5970 is a great watch, my favorite part is the...
My consent, Nicolas!
Although not being able to play in that league, I feel your advice is sound. The VC is gorgeous and I like its clear dial design best of all three watches. Best regards, anaesdoc
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the VC may be ...
A very cool winner. Aaah, I'm preparing something on the 5970, by the way. Best, Nicolas
I never consider value as a standard...
I mean,it is nice to know a watch is retaining value but ultimately its YOUR enjoyment that matters,personally Id rather "lose"some money but enjoy my watch to the full than settling for second best......in terms of satisfaction. Even though not a fan of ...
VIANNEY HALTER'S ANTIGUA !!!
I know recognition is an aspect for you, BUT if you are prepared to spend such money for a pp and as others have already suggested alternatives: have a look at youtube, there is a video of it in a winder. A watch like this in a winder is simply mind-boggl...
with your thunderous lion's roar WE will take on any foe on the planet!
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Are you referring to my "Dream post" in Hor.Mend. ??? TWO ANTIQUA ?
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It is a very rare case...
in which I prefer the Patek version. The dial of the 5970 has a superb layout and it is perfectly balanced. It is not the case of the Dtaograph Perpetual: the moonphases indicator seems to be squashed and the subdials are a bit too complicated to read. It...
I asked the same question
And went with the ALS, never looked backed....might be interesting info in here if you are making a similar choice... alang.watchprosite.com =
Patek.
Lange - dial too busy and difficult to read Lange's value is not as stable as Patek since you consider it as an important factor. Having said all that, Lange is a better quality watch in many aspects. Regards Ling
Lange, for sure
I am a happy owner of a Langematik and was faced with a similar question a few months ago. However, I decided to go for the Lange as it is easier to read and beautiful on the back as well. The 5970 with all due respect, can get harder to read on black dia...
Lange more robust
People tell me the Patek is delicate and easilly knocked out of whack, so to speak, and tha lange is the way to go as an everyday beater.