foversta
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Dear Bruno...
First of all, only rely on official prices put on official lists.
Why? Because discussions during the fairs are always confusing (CHF vs EUR, with or without VAT).
Moreover, before the fairs, some AD speak about prices they heard from the Manufacture. But these prices can be adjusted at the last moment.
Let's take this Aeronef Type 20. Yes, the initial price which was heard was around the figures you wrote. But it was before any start of the production process. Then Zenith adusted it. And the final price remains, IMHO, very reasonable due to the specificity of the watch and the famous law of supply & demand.
So the moral of the story is that the brands should be very cautious about their prices communications to avoid such feeling from a client.
Fx
'Because we can...' .................. or my first Zenith disappointment
I am a little bit pissed off Zenith claims they want to give a great watch for a fair price. And I agree, some of their Chrono's are a bargain. I always said Zenith is THE bargain today. So even if they would raise the price with 5 or 7 % like most other ...
no confidence in the euro?
maybe they think the euro will plummit, and they want to preserve value in the export markets. chris
Why but why do you always go on watches which see their price increase so much? :)))
You should pass. Seriously. I would, if I were you, as a price is a price, and you can't change it between the unveil and the delivery. Sometimes, clients have to say no. And if clients say no, the brands will change their behaviour. That is mandatory. Be...
I'm affraid that won't work
I was told the demand was huge, at the first day of Basel they had more than 600 requests ... and if they only make 250 of them. So if I would not buy it because of that unfair price increase , I'm sure a few hundred others would pay it without problem. I...
This is why Zenith and the industry
can raise prices like they do at will Bruno. Sorry.
The beginning of the end ...
of good value? I had stated in a few of my much earlier posts here that Zenith watches (under Mr Dufour) were of great value. Then at the later part of last year, I found myself telling friends Zenith watches (most) were of good value. This year, I stoppe...
I still think they are very reasonably priced
So I can't agree they are not interesting anymore. For me they are a bargain, just like 3 years ago. You can still get a top Chrono like the El Primero for less than 6000 euro. When I look at similar brand slike IWC, JLC, Panerai, Rolex, Blancpain, UN, .....
I could be wrong ........... apologies in that case
I just talked to somebody who ordered one in Switserland And already months ago he was quoted the 11600 CHF which is almost 9500 euro. The 7800 I heard from a few dealers ...... might have been without taxes. Prices in Europe are always taxes included but...
They should, but sometimes ...
... especially, if they believe that the people inquiring are from abroad, they assume that the VAT would be reclaimed on export, and thus quote the net price only. This is not serious, and not frequent, but it happens. Regards, Marcus
Dear Bruno...
First of all, only rely on official prices put on official lists. Why? Because discussions during the fairs are always confusing (CHF vs EUR, with or without VAT). Moreover, before the fairs, some AD speak about prices they heard from the Manufacture. But...
Thank you, FX. I couldn't have replied . . .
. . . with any more clarity. And, let's all try to keep in mind the importance and intrigue of the Zenith 5011K caliber. It is one of the most storied movements in the history of watchmaking. What price a legend? This message has been edited by Dr No on 2...
You are so right ...
price quotes in a time BEFORE the production has started normally cannot be really serious. However, how should the inquiring customer know that? It is on the manufacturer's behalf to make clear that definite prices can be calculated only after the produc...