Zenith - 'Because we can...' .................. or my first Zenith disappointment

'Because we can...' .................. or my first Zenith disappointment

I am a little bit pissed off

Zenith claims they want to give a great watch for a fair price. And I agree, some of their Chrono's are a bargain. I always said Zenith is THE bargain today.

So even if they would raise the price with 5 or 7 % like most other brands do every year, they would still be a great buy

BUT, I just discovered that the type 20 went up with almost 2000 euro .... :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Not one piece has been delivered and somehow they go from 7800 euro to 9500 euro .... I guess 'because they can'. Sorry but I hate it when Panerai adds a few hundred euro to a new watch, a watch which hasn't been delivered yet, now Zenith does the same ... and we're not talking about a few hundred euro but 1700 euro !!!

In the Geneva Boutique they said the reason was that all of them will be delivered with a COSC certificate .... Good to know but afaik this costs 100, max 200 euro ...

Imo not fair

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no confidence in the euro?

By: cuibono : June 2nd, 2012-16:54

maybe they think the euro will plummit, and they want to preserve value in the export markets. chris

Why but why do you always go on watches which see their price increase so much? :)))

By: amanico : June 2nd, 2012-22:15

You should pass. Seriously. I would, if I were you, as a price is a price, and you can't change it between the unveil and the delivery. Sometimes, clients have to say no. And if clients say no, the brands will change their behaviour. That is mandatory. Be...

I'm affraid that won't work

By: Bruno.M1 : June 3rd, 2012-01:53

I was told the demand was huge, at the first day of Basel they had more than 600 requests ... and if they only make 250 of them. So if I would not buy it because of that unfair price increase , I'm sure a few hundred others would pay it without problem. I...

Be an example. RESIST! ;)

By: amanico : June 3rd, 2012-03:16

This is why Zenith and the industry

By: ArthurSG : June 3rd, 2012-08:25

can raise prices like they do at will Bruno. Sorry.

That's a good principle

By: rnaden : June 3rd, 2012-09:28

And one I would gladly agree with. Richard

I passed on several watches, because of that kind of behaviour.

By: amanico : June 3rd, 2012-10:37

The beginning of the end ...

By: mell0822 : June 3rd, 2012-05:32

of good value? I had stated in a few of my much earlier posts here that Zenith watches (under Mr Dufour) were of great value. Then at the later part of last year, I found myself telling friends Zenith watches (most) were of good value. This year, I stoppe...

I still think they are very reasonably priced

By: Bruno.M1 : June 3rd, 2012-06:46

So I can't agree they are not interesting anymore. For me they are a bargain, just like 3 years ago. You can still get a top Chrono like the El Primero for less than 6000 euro. When I look at similar brand slike IWC, JLC, Panerai, Rolex, Blancpain, UN, .....

I could be wrong ........... apologies in that case

By: Bruno.M1 : June 3rd, 2012-13:28

I just talked to somebody who ordered one in Switserland And already months ago he was quoted the 11600 CHF which is almost 9500 euro. The 7800 I heard from a few dealers ...... might have been without taxes. Prices in Europe are always taxes included but...

If your dealers are in the CEE, they always give the price with the VAT included.

By: amanico : June 3rd, 2012-13:30

They should, but sometimes ...

By: Marcus Hanke : June 6th, 2012-08:18

... especially, if they believe that the people inquiring are from abroad, they assume that the VAT would be reclaimed on export, and thus quote the net price only. This is not serious, and not frequent, but it happens. Regards, Marcus

Dear Bruno...

By: foversta : June 3rd, 2012-14:04

First of all, only rely on official prices put on official lists. Why? Because discussions during the fairs are always confusing (CHF vs EUR, with or without VAT). Moreover, before the fairs, some AD speak about prices they heard from the Manufacture. But...

Thank you, FX. I couldn't have replied . . .

By: Dr No : June 3rd, 2012-21:43

. . . with any more clarity. And, let's all try to keep in mind the importance and intrigue of the Zenith 5011K caliber. It is one of the most storied movements in the history of watchmaking. What price a legend? This message has been edited by Dr No on 2...

You are so right ...

By: Marcus Hanke : June 6th, 2012-08:14

price quotes in a time BEFORE the production has started normally cannot be really serious. However, how should the inquiring customer know that? It is on the manufacturer's behalf to make clear that definite prices can be calculated only after the produc...