Baron - Mr Red
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Put simply...you are wrong
I have never suggested that it is unique. What I have said is that 14060M with the LGF dial is rare and was almost certainly produced in the very first year or transition in 2007/8. Occasionally one will see one dated on the papers at 2009 and even 2010....This is NOT when it was manufactured but when it was sold.
Also note that it is often a Rolex trait that a dial from an earlier period ends up on a watch manufactured at a later date. It happens.
Calling Rolex LGF experts...
I have to admit I’m smitten by the series of future classics by our well versed and knowledgeable mod Baron, well done and appreciate the detail study. Since then, I’ve been looking and found a dealer has a 14060 (no M) from 2009 that has LGF. I thought f...
The "report" is inaccurate.
I have seen many of these so-called LGF dials on 14060M models after the 2007/2008 model years (Z-serial), including M, G...etc. I don't know who came up with the idea that they were only available during the first model year.
I don't know how you can possibly stick by it.
There are even full set random serial 14060Ms out there with the LGF dial. The following is just one example: www.sdwatches.com And this is not unique. I have seen M, G, random, just about every serial of 14060M with the LGF dial. Not rare at all....
Put simply...you are wrong
I have never suggested that it is unique. What I have said is that 14060M with the LGF dial is rare and was almost certainly produced in the very first year or transition in 2007/8. Occasionally one will see one dated on the papers at 2009 and even 2010.....
How about one dated 2012?
A random serial 14060M is so far removed from 2008/2009. And these 14060M sold pretty well and fast. How could a random serial possibly have LGF if your thesis is correct?
depends entirely when it was sold
What you have on this forum are a number of people who have done exactly the same research that I have and they have found exactly the same results that I have. The vast majority of LGF 14060M come in a 2007/8 period.....ones that were not sold at AD can ...
Raymond....
The rarity is when you have a 14060M with a long F. A 14060 with a long F is NOT rare. Can you check what your dealer has...14060 or 14060M
It is a buyers market: 14060M with a long F.
Baron is right. Here and there a 14060M is dated 2009 but that can only mean, it was sold 2009. Majority are from 2008, from my observations of this market. At times less than 5% of all 14060M with b&p are long F.
It is one (!) offer on the secondary market
I was quite some time looking for an LGF and still observing various market places and vendors. I can only repeat: yes, on and off an offering is outside the the production dates mentioned in Baron's post but vast mayority of this "rare" dial is from 2007...
Finally, this is a statement I can agree with.
And the key point to emphasize is, this has nothing to do with "when" a watch was sold. A serial number indicates when Rolex made it, not when it was sold!
True. Altough vendors tend to advertise with purchase date
if they can produce the receipt as the original purchase document.
Why not what actually?
Calling a Kermit LGF or calling 16610M LGF? Do you find sense in calling LGF meaning long f watches that by default and not as oddity has long f on dial? Cheers D
You tried on what sample size?
Long f is rare in 14060M Long f is not rare with Kermit also...again ....that watch has nick name it's Kermit due to Lunette verte....14060M rare long f version didn't have nick name hence LGF nick...hope this helps D