And on the subject Radium

Nov 15, 2014,09:14 AM
 

Nah only kidding.

Have a great weekend.

Bill

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Wow! Vintage Rolex prices can go down as well as up! My take on the recent auction.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : November 11th, 2014-04:56
Lot XXX - Not for Sale PuristS has a policy of not talking about the price of watches. For example, its not forum policy to discuss the attraction (or not) of a watch that is about to be auctioned. On the other hand, discussing an auction after the event ...  

Thanks for sharing your opinion Baron

 
 By: nikolaj : November 11th, 2014-05:28
I had been wondering about the seemingly conservative estimates and followed some of the auction from the side line. I am in no way qualified to judge the quality of the lots solely from the "mug shots" provided in the catalogue, and the condition reports... 

Hey Nikolaj....i take a different slant

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : November 11th, 2014-05:45
I think the price for quality vintage is extremely strong, but the price for lower quality is not being driven by the same demand. Look at yesterday's auction....for many lots, there were NO telephone bidders at all. Demand for mediocre pieces was very lo... 

J.. Very educative thoughts.. and a pretty sharp analysis.. Food fir thoughts, as well

 
 By: hs111 : November 12th, 2014-04:48
.. increasingly , although it's a still on a quite modest & humble level, I started to develop a deeper understanding of your, Nico's advice & some others' positions & opinions. - To be honest, my 1675 GMT Vintage/gilt took me more than 2 years and it's e... 

I am not that surprised to see prices calming down...

 
 By: amanico : November 11th, 2014-08:31
High or down, that doesn't mean a lot.... It dépends on many factors... Bidders, quality of the watches, history sometimes, well.... If you see a DRSD MK II PP Brown dial for 10 K Euros, I am in! :) :) :) All the best, my friend. Nicolas

Prices on the MK2 tropic PP have indeed collapsed....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : November 11th, 2014-08:53
......from 30 quadrillion down to just 100 billion.....

I am not sure prices calmed down.

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : November 11th, 2014-10:15
It is just the lots were not inspiring. Mediocre watches (quality) fetch mediocre prices. Quite simple. best Edmond

See things the same as you

 
 By: Le Monde Edmond : November 11th, 2014-10:13
Joe- well written. I was in the auction room and despite the auctioneer being quite capably, the auction seemed to 'drag' on. I think the biggest problem was twofold: 1) The quality was just not there. 2) I also think that lack of Rolex leadership at Chri... 

well usually

 
 By: marcello pisani : November 12th, 2014-04:20
final value depends on quality but also on originality .. LOL LOL LOL here is a clean example of a fake " explorer dial " that went happily unsold : ...  

but on the contrary ...

 
 By: marcello pisani : November 12th, 2014-08:19
a blatant fake " explorer " dial for 5513 was sold ( btw at a price much lower than genuine ones .. LOL LOL LOL ) : simply incredible ! ...  

A Great POV on Rolex auctions

 
 By: Bill : November 13th, 2014-19:02
Supply and quality. The demand is always there when the ingredients are right. It seem also dealer tweets can have an affect on the market as it seems to have spooked buyers away. I am not talking specifics as I was not there but it seems enough doubt rub... 

for sure !!!

 
 By: marcello pisani : November 14th, 2014-23:10
many collectors have the same feeling .. at least the few dozens that has sent me an email in the last days.

And on the subject Radium

 
 By: Bill : November 15th, 2014-09:14
Nah only kidding. Have a great weekend. Bill

It sucks the fun out of collecting

 
 By: Bill : November 15th, 2014-09:18
But i am still in. I use my best judgement. And still make mistake but enjoy the journey.

But here is the irony.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : November 15th, 2014-09:23
.....people seemingly pay MORE money for a watch that kills you with radiation!! I remember once that the issue of global warming was being debated in the UK parliament....this was when it wasn't really understood. One politician stood up and asked...."So...