Roger Dubuis

I am surprised to see that RD’s current niche is basically only wild, skeleton watches with astronomical price tags. It seems that hardly anything, if at all, remains of the original brand DNA. What are your thoughts on the current lineup, pricing, and br... 

I hope they bring back some of what made the original lineup unique. I dont get why they'd buy a brand just to change the aesthetic completely.

then their watches won't compete with high-end Richemont blrandsl like VC, Lange, Piaget, etc.

...but we'll never see that again...

I like the 2018 Excalibur, most of them. But not the super modern looking ones that look like they belong on a race car driver's wrist. I'm not a movie star nor a famous celebrity race car driver - and some of the RD watches in 2018 looked like they were ... 

For a 2018 RD watch, the Excalibur is pretty traditional looking. 42mm gray dial ref. DBEX0353

I looked up DBEX0353 and I like that style of Excalibur much more than the current models that use a similar case that's been blacked out.

FYI, the Hommage is ref. HO43 57 0 1R 7A if you want to see what it looks like.

...in any iteration... Collected Man ...  

over the top for my taste. and as a reference, I do really love some of the less extravagant pieces from Mille, like the 67-01, and all of the supremely original Nadal watches. Cheers, Filip

I guess there are designs and prices that suit the tastes of a wide-range of consumers.

…catering to the nouveau riche segment. Hublot and Richard Mille have proven there is money to be made there.

And I feel that the refence to Rochard Mille is appropriate.

RD doesn't come close to the hype of Roger Mille, which also makes over-the-top watches at astronomical prices.

Their Sympathie, Excalibur (early years), Hommage etc. lines was so beautiful inside and out. Today they are a totally different brand that is not to my liking. Go for the ones you are offered if you are lucky enough to afford them. They are great watches... 

Just that skeletons, most of them, are not my preferred type of watch.

It is in good condition, recently overhauled, and a traditional-looking watch with class.

About RD. As i am not a big skeleton watch enthusiast, some skeleton watches i like and some skeleton watches i dislike. Depends on the design if i like it or not. The astronomical prices are odd, so i never can buy an expensive RD. At the other hand RD h... 

Yes, the second-hand market is the way to go, I feel.

It is a skeletonized RD. Excalibur tourbillon with the blue paint. 42mm case size.

Just for fun, I'll present a slightly different opinion. Old Roger Dubuis would not have a place within Richemont today, as they do not want to compete against Vacheron, Lange, JLC, etc. Today Roger Dubuis is selling to the young and young at heart afflue... 

If RD can make these watches and sell them, and make money at the same time too, then it's a strategy that doesn't compete with other Richemont brands. The watches do cater to the younger and affluent crowd, and if that strategey is sound and not broken, ... 

Current line up totally not mine! I prefer the 90-s ones. I do own one from the recent collection, but not as "crazy" as most of RD watches ...  

I have an option to buy one similar to yours. I am trying to make up my mind.

I love the bracelet and the thinnes of the watch. Legibility is of course ultra high with those 1m high roman numerals 😁