I agree. The Excalibur is a great looking one.

Apr 05, 2023,01:37 AM

It is in good condition, recently overhauled, and a traditional-looking watch with class.

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What are your thoughts on the current Roger Dubuis brand?

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 4th, 2023-02:34
I am surprised to see that RD’s current niche is basically only wild, skeleton watches with astronomical price tags. It seems that hardly anything, if at all, remains of the original brand DNA. What are your thoughts on the current lineup, pricing, and br... 

Completely ruined...

 By: m2 : April 4th, 2023-02:37
I hope they bring back some of what made the original lineup unique. I dont get why they'd buy a brand just to change the aesthetic completely.

I also don't understand, but if RD can do it with this niche,

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:24
then their watches won't compete with high-end Richemont blrandsl like VC, Lange, Piaget, etc.

Their old stuff was amazing...

 By: mdg : April 4th, 2023-02:46
...but we'll never see that again...

The 2005 Hommage piece might be very interesting!

 By: patrick_y : April 4th, 2023-03:44
I like the 2018 Excalibur, most of them. But not the super modern looking ones that look like they belong on a race car driver's wrist. I'm not a movie star nor a famous celebrity race car driver - and some of the RD watches in 2018 looked like they were ... 

The 2005 Hommage is nice, very nice, but then, it also looks like a fashion watch, and not a watch costing 10 times as much.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:29
For a 2018 RD watch, the Excalibur is pretty traditional looking. 42mm gray dial ref. DBEX0353

Both the 2005 and 2018 are excellent pieces.

 By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-04:14
I looked up DBEX0353 and I like that style of Excalibur much more than the current models that use a similar case that's been blacked out.

I too like it a lot. It's a very traditional and normal-looking watch. I plan to go tomorrow and see it in person.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-13:21
FYI, the Hommage is ref. HO43 57 0 1R 7A if you want to see what it looks like.

Good luck!

 By: patrick_y : April 5th, 2023-16:00


 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 6th, 2023-02:24

Yes, we agree for sure.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:29

I would do many terrible things to own one of these : )

 By: mdg : April 5th, 2023-04:23
...in any iteration... Collected Man ...  

The new ones are too....

 By: InHavenPro : April 4th, 2023-05:15
over the top for my taste. and as a reference, I do really love some of the less extravagant pieces from Mille, like the 67-01, and all of the supremely original Nadal watches. Cheers, Filip

Yes, extravagant peices and prices.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:31
I guess there are designs and prices that suit the tastes of a wide-range of consumers.

They seem to be…

 By: Krinck : April 4th, 2023-05:32
…catering to the nouveau riche segment. Hublot and Richard Mille have proven there is money to be made there.

Exactly, my thoughts too.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:32
And I feel that the refence to Rochard Mille is appropriate.

I also think so. RD in my opinion is a less respected and much less sought after brand.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:35
RD doesn't come close to the hype of Roger Mille, which also makes over-the-top watches at astronomical prices.

Roger Dubuis used to be one of my fav. brands.

 By: LarsG : April 4th, 2023-05:54
Their Sympathie, Excalibur (early years), Hommage etc. lines was so beautiful inside and out. Today they are a totally different brand that is not to my liking. Go for the ones you are offered if you are lucky enough to afford them. They are great watches... 

If RD is successful at this strategy, and it's working financially, then it's ok

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:38
Just that skeletons, most of them, are not my preferred type of watch.

I agree. The Excalibur is a great looking one.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:37
It is in good condition, recently overhauled, and a traditional-looking watch with class.

Much i agree

 By: Weems@8 : April 4th, 2023-08:31
About RD. As i am not a big skeleton watch enthusiast, some skeleton watches i like and some skeleton watches i dislike. Depends on the design if i like it or not. The astronomical prices are odd, so i never can buy an expensive RD. At the other hand RD h... 

I hope one day you can find and also be able to buy a RD of your liking.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:39
Yes, the second-hand market is the way to go, I feel.

This is a RD i want badly

 By: Weems@8 : April 5th, 2023-07:20
It is a skeletonized RD. Excalibur tourbillon with the blue paint. 42mm case size.

Completely different brand from circa 1998 Roger Dubuis

 By: jmpTT : April 4th, 2023-14:08
Just for fun, I'll present a slightly different opinion. Old Roger Dubuis would not have a place within Richemont today, as they do not want to compete against Vacheron, Lange, JLC, etc. Today Roger Dubuis is selling to the young and young at heart afflue... 

It's a very interesting take on the brand, and I do agree.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-01:42
If RD can make these watches and sell them, and make money at the same time too, then it's a strategy that doesn't compete with other Richemont brands. The watches do cater to the younger and affluent crowd, and if that strategey is sound and not broken, ... 

whatever they are taking, i want that too :)

 By: @lberti : April 5th, 2023-09:40
Current line up totally not mine! I prefer the 90-s ones. I do own one from the recent collection, but not as "crazy" as most of RD watches ...  

Very nice looking indeed. One of the earlier and classic designs.

 By: Moka-Tiger (Ron) : April 5th, 2023-13:25
I have an option to buy one similar to yours. I am trying to make up my mind.

If it helps:

 By: @lberti : April 5th, 2023-15:40
I love the bracelet and the thinnes of the watch. Legibility is of course ultra high with those 1m high roman numerals 😁