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We had that discussion lately at Belles Montres...
...and you know my opinion already!
There are quite significant differences between the 2 last modern versions and we seem to have balanced appeal for both of them.
However, I'm also very attracted by the 5110 too. Such a beautiful piece.
Enjoy yours again and again and thanks for your owner's and experienced input here Nicolas.
Cheers, Mark
Patek Philippe World Time references: a journey through the generations
Hi everyone, Article updated with the last novelties Best, Mark Last Update October, 2017: Baselworld 2017 5131P World Time Updated August 1, 2017: NYC Grand Exhibition references (5531, 5230G NYC) Updated Sep 28, 2016: 5130P Edinburgh "Hamilton & Inches"...
Happy Christmas
Wishing you the same Happy Christmas Mark and New Year and also to everyone ! Regards Seconds
Wow!!
Amazing post Mark, comprehensive with great photos! I love Patek world timers and your post just ignites my passion further. Thank you and have a Merry Christmas! Sham
Thank you Sham!
I love them too even if, of course, I have my favorites among them Cheers, Mark
Fantastic post, Mark.
You made a huge effort to assemble all those pictures and lay out the history of an iconic complication. Excellent. Cheers to you!
It took a little time indeed Padj
But when it is a motivating subject you "nearly) don't feel it! Thank you for your words, much appreciated. Cheers, Mark
wonderful coverage
Thanks for the comprehensive coverage of the world time reference.... Can't wait to see what's new for 2016 Basel from Patek regarding the 10th anniversary of the ref 5130. Is it possible to see something NEW?!? hmm....
My pleasure
I thought it would be interesting to gather them for a long overview. Indeed the current 5130 has been in the catalogue since 2006 and I had the same thoughts lately: will it soon be replaced? I don't know because of the 5131P still to come but we'll see ...
Thanks Mark , very informative.
The DNA of the worldtime goes along way. Truly a practical and beautiful tumepiece. Cheers Geross
Thank you Geross! I think it is indeed a more iconic piece for Patek than I thought
and I took great pleasure in educating myself when gathering information. You said it Geross: DNA! Cheers, Mark
That's an awesome read, makes me feel a PP WT is a must have...
in the collection. Thank you for this informative post. Rgds Raymond
You know what? While writing the post and getting the information...
... I came to realize the same thing as you do. Hence, I think this is something I would like to get too. Until that day, thanks for your nice words Raymond! Cheers, Mark
Thank you and...
you're welcome! Congratulations for your 5130 and its so beautiful hands, I hope you enjoy it as much as you can! Cheers, Mark
The Patek World Time is an icon, indeed.
There are several in the market, since 2000, but none can beat a 5110, in terms of charm. None. Not even the later Patek references. The proortions of the dial, 24 hours ring, cities ring and case were thought to work together in harmony. The later refere...
For once, I think you are right!
Well maybe more than once. However, this is the one that didn't need too much convincing as everything about it points to it being an eternal beauty and a definite keeper. Thank you for doing what you do best. Merry X'mas! Fernando
We had that discussion lately at Belles Montres...
...and you know my opinion already! There are quite significant differences between the 2 last modern versions and we seem to have balanced appeal for both of them. However, I'm also very attracted by the 5110 too. Such a beautiful piece. Enjoy yours agai...
I owned both, indeed. The 5110P and the 5130G.
After three years, the 5130 was out... The 5110P killed it. For the reasons I mentioned. And I love the Patek WT so much that I tried to convince myself to keep the 5130G... Best, Nicolas
Platinum!!
This Platinum 5110 is way better than 5130 or the latest 5230, early 5110 is simply is the best.
Thank you keks!
this is so enjoying for us to see such a beautiful and exclusive watch as your 5131. I'd love to have a rose gold version but it is a hard task. Thanks for your kind comments again and enjoy your beauty! Cheers, Mark
Thank you Mark ..
for such an interesting and well thought out article on the WT complication. Here's a pic. to share of the 5110P: A very Merry Christmas to you! Fernando ...
Gorgeous shot for a beautiful reference
Congratulations and take care of "her"! It was a real pleasure working on this subject and sharing with you all, thank you for your nice words Fernando. Cheers, Mark
GREAT post Mark ++++
Many thanks to summurize the WT PP historic models. Like you, Rose Gold versions have my favour: 5110R and 5131R . Merry Christmas, Patrickh
Very nice Limited Edition. First time I see it.
Thanks for sharing Keks, Merry Chritsmas holidays, Patrickh
Thanks for sharing keks
I didn't see this version yet. The external colored ring is a detail most of other limited editions don't have. It is a nice choice and I imagine it plays on the size of the watch too. Cheers, Mark
Thank you Patrick!
You already know what I think about these references, there is so much to love. Have a great Christmas time Patrick. Cheers, Mark
Thank you for your wishes and kind comments Nick
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it and found it informative, this is indeed a lot of historical data to learn about and help understanding Patek a little more (I hope!). Have a nice Christmas time! Cheers, Mark
Great article!
Thank you very much Mark for your great post! A nice education for every collector! I wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year! Best Tempus
I'm happy you liked it Tempus
Among your very beautiful collection and latest arrivings, I'm glad you found a little room for enjoying this historical material. Thank you very much and have a good Christmas time too! Cheers, Mark
Thank you Mark for such a great and informative post! My WT photos (not all of them my watches) below
Cheers and happy new year! Gordon ...
There are some pictures I remmebr seeing on our forum
Thanks for sharing them again, especially the last one which gathers two beauties. They are indeed references that are worthy of the brand's history and deserve attention! Thank you for your warm compliments Gordon, as always. Cheers, Mark
It is indeed a great complication...
...and one of the very usefull ones I think. Thank you very much for your compliments Descartes! Cheers, Mark
Once again, a very nice - and actual - post.
Thank you Mark. My dream is that the next generation of World Time would have two buttons to adjust the time. That would make travelling both westwards and eastwards as easy. With the current models travelling i.e. from Paris to London requires 23 pushes ...
Up to date.
Indeed, it is maybe my wish to go further that made me write about it too. Who knows... I think it is a very interesting suggestion: when I "experienced" the TZ change myself, I thought it ould be a nice feature to add. In the mean time, I think adding an...
Amazing post my friend !
Thank you for the huge research work ; that is again one of these reference post that must be kept in our archives ! I also share your opinion as you know well, the P and the R are also my favorites ; and your pics of both versions are just 10/10 ! ;-))) ...
Hey Mike thank you!
Your warm comment are very highly appreciated As a World Time "connoisseur", I'm glad you liked it. it took quite much time to make but I thought it was an important line to talk about... and you know that I like a couple in particular. Have a nice time w...
My pleasure Bruno
And thank you for having shared your 5131R. I hope you enjoy it well! Cheers, Mark
A breath-taking review
Firstly, thank you Mark for taking the time and trouble to compile such an exhaustive review. Just superb. Secondly, this is a complication that has captured me quite a bit. Presenting the complication in this way has really helped to place the various de...
From the 5110G owner that your are, I higly appreciate your comments Joe
You pics are on my computer in order to admire them from time to time. I think as well that it has been cleverly designed. We'll see if in 2016 we'll have some novelties about this ref... or not Enjoy yours and thanks again for you kind words Joe. Cheers,...
Thanks a lot. If I may suggest a small correction
Mark, Many thanks for this overview. Please note that the 96 HU is not a unique watch as two distinct 96 HU's were sold in late 2011 by Christie’s and Sotheby’s respectively. Cheers and best wishes This message has been edited by DCC on 2015-12-28 09:31:5...
My pleasure Dcc!
Thank you for sharing this update, I'll edit my post concerning the 96HU. Between the beginning of my work on this article and the end I went from unique to 2, 3, etc... for some references. I don't know if the 5131G is yours (if it is congratulations) bu...
The 5131G is indeed mine
As you are in Paris, French should be quite familiar to you so you may find some more details here: Some figures need to be updated as for example, a 2523 that was not known to the market so far was recently sold by Sotheby's bringing the number of we...
You've done a really great and educative job Dcc
Thank you for sharing, it reminds me I read some of them long ago. Cheers, Mark
This report requires a bookmark.
Thank you, Mark, for the history of the birth and consecutive generations of the PPWT. For me, the 5110 is by far my most favorite WT. Even more so than the coveted 5131. Aloha, Bob
I thought it is an important part of Patek's historical references.
We are many here to share this strong appeal for the 5110. Thank you Bob for your very nice comments and have a nice week-end! Cheers, Mark
Wonderful article...
Thanks for this well thought out and educated piece. It's always a please to read about world timers.
How did I miss this post.....
...Thank you Mark in Paris for very nice presentation. Best Regards Edward
Some articles end sometimes quickly at the bottom of the forum
Thanks for your nice comments Edward, I'm glad you enjoyed it Cheers, Mark
Looks like this one was afloat....
for a while. Rather it was my superficial browsing In any event, often they are more than worthy to resurface, this is the case with this thread. Best Edward
Spectacular summary! My personal fav must be the Geneva Lake… sublime!
adding the so gorgeous Beirut edition This message has been edited by keks on 2016-05-18 12:31:52 ...
Indeed that version is very attractive
I think I saw this picture on the net as well and thought "how cool is that!" Thanks for the reminder. Cheers, Mark
A fantastic thread that has been resurrected
My favourite is the 5131G and I just hope that a P comes out with the same Africa continent. I would also hope that one day that PP re-incorporates some of those interim Time Zones like India. Seems silly that a nation of 1 billion is excluded but then i ...
Those 5131 have a very special place indeed
They bring a poetry and a craftmanship that is completely coherent with the brand's hostory and the reference's theme. I agree with you about the continent choice: Africa and the yellow shades are very appealing and I must say I also like the snowy parts ...
What an information rich WT report. Thank you.
I did not realize that Moscow was first GMT +2, then GMT+3, then GMT +4, then back to GMT +3 now. This variability in Moscow GMT, especially in recent years, and the possibly of the same in other cities around the world, convinced me that I should stay aw...
My pleasure Jim!
This evolution and updating matter is something to consider indeed. I don't personally have this problem, it comes with the watch and, as I don't have the real use for a WT, this would not be a problem (or I can adjust the time adding or removing one hour...
I'm glad you enjoyed it Chris!
I found very interesting myself to read about the WT complications and thought it would make a nice article. Thank you for your nice compliment Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark, hi everyone
First it's a great article. Thqnk you for the work done. Merci . May i give you an addition to your post ? " The caliber used for these 1415 and 2523 references was the hand-wound 12-400 ." --- I would rather think that both models (1415 HU et 2523 (2 ver...