Very insightful review, not only of a mesmerizing watch, but of the thought process leading to its purchase. When one loves watches with a great passion

Jun 09, 2017,09:13 AM
 

acquiring one does have the leap of faith element, unless prior to the purchase one has spent considerable time trying out the exact model/reference. Even then over weeks/months of ownership one's appreciation can grow or diminish considerably. I guess that the ultimate  is what you stated: "It is a thrill to wear". 


The first complicated watch I bought was a 3970ER, 2d series, NOS. When I looked at the watch on my wrist, it just about took my breath away and I couldn't believe my good fortune in owning something so beautiful and captivating in its complications. This is the feeling I always hope for and look for. It has happened more than once, but not often.  Best, patekova    

PS - Great images of the extraordinary movement!


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Patek Philippe 5370P - an owner's review

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-11:12
I have owned the 5370P now for 4-5 months and have had several opportunities to wear it and see how it felt as a part of my collection. I think one can often look at watches for sale and imagine how it will feel if one owned it. There always needs to be a...  
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many thanks . [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-13:47
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Great review Baron

 
 By: Harry2 : June 8th, 2017-11:56
I like your criticism/thought process. It's like a wiser version of mine! You're cohesive in your quest for cohesiveness, perhaps that's how I'll put it! Do you have any nice movement shots? Also, I've never even seen a 3448 in the metal, but I think you ... 
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I will take some tomorrow

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-11:58
Promise
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Duty to the forum ;) [nt]

 
 By: Harry2 : June 8th, 2017-12:06
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The new King of Rattrapantes?

 
 By: amanico : June 8th, 2017-11:58
I do think so. A Rattrapante is something magic. Making a Chronograph is something quite challenging, all the brands will tell you. But a Rattrapante is another level, THE other level. It would deserve a movement shot! Of course I am mentioning manual win... 
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Movement scan tomorrow

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-12:00
Already promised Harry.
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Ok, impatient to see that. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : June 8th, 2017-12:05
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"King" is an emotive word...it seems..LoL

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-13:48
But for me, it was the one i had to have.
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we have some similar tastes....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-13:49
.....5131P would be right up there for me amongst modern Patek Philippe
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owning something....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-13:51
......means one has an emotional investment in something. In some sense, the act of buying creates a bias to want to like it. When a watch cannot overcome that bias, it really needs to leave a collection. Equally, living with a watch allows one to learn a... 
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You're welcome Joe

 
 By: Alkiro1 : June 8th, 2017-14:14
Best wishes Alkiro
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Lovely review. Very much enjoyed reading but had wished for more pictures of this beauty!

 
 By: keks : June 8th, 2017-13:17
I had the privilege of handling this reference for a few minutes and vividly recall the magic emotions it evoked. Congratulations to you and hope many enjoyable moments for you to come with this exquisite timepiece!
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Promise.....more pictures Friday [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-13:30
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That was trully great reading

 
 By: Mark in Paris : June 8th, 2017-15:02
We don't have often the possibility to see pictures and read from owners of such rare pieces and that's why I love being here looking at what people share. I imagine that what you mention about falling in love with a model and buying it right away, leadin... 
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Thank you Mark......

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 9th, 2017-00:24
....as ever, your comments are insightful. Best, Joe
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It appears this watch has every thing for you

 
 By: watch-guy.com : June 8th, 2017-18:31
Platinum case with stunning lines Exceptional movement with uncommon complication - spit second or rattratpante Breguet numerals on a Black enamel dial The contrast of the black dial and case looks spectacular A perfect choice for a connoisseur like yours... 
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Thanks Julian

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-22:37
But I STILL think it plays number 2 to the 3448! .....just
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big call!! [nt]

 
 By: watch-guy.com : June 8th, 2017-23:11
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there is something beyond normal with the 3448.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-23:13
.....a watch with soul. Ask me again in a year!
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This makes for wonderful reading.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : June 8th, 2017-22:51
You've laid out your argument beautifully. And the watch is certainly worthy of your high praise. Perhaps a perfect watch.
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I am very happy that...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 8th, 2017-23:12
.....we had a chance to meet, to dine and to share our thoughts on watches. A totally pleasurable way to spend an evening! Best Joe
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Thank you for the wonderful review.

 
 By: zabreg1 Mr White : June 9th, 2017-02:53
It pretty much reflects all my thoughts on the piece, except I did not FA, and jumped right in when I first saw it. Love at first sight. And, btw, that photo is still the best I have come across of the 5370.
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Thanks N..... much appreciated [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 9th, 2017-03:04
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Great review for a fantastic watch!

 
 By: Mike H : June 9th, 2017-03:06
Thank you Joe for sharing with us your thinking and decision process. 5370 P is surely my (inaccessible) grail and a real keeper. Enjoy it and wear it in the very best of your health my friend, Mike
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as much as I believe in the 5370.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 9th, 2017-05:22
......it is not king. It is the pretender, but not king.
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Very insightful review, not only of a mesmerizing watch, but of the thought process leading to its purchase. When one loves watches with a great passion

 
 By: patekova : June 9th, 2017-09:13
acquiring one does have the leap of faith element, unless prior to the purchase one has spent considerable time trying out the exact model/reference. Even then over weeks/months of ownership one's appreciation can grow or diminish considerably. I guess th... 
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Many thanks Patekova

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 9th, 2017-09:24
Your comments are always insightful and interesting to read.
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Thanks Joe for

 
 By: sham1 : June 10th, 2017-01:03
sharing with us your ownership experience and what made you decide on this watch. If you had a choice of all the split second chronographs including say the 5950 and 5959 (perhaps too small for you but my ultimate watch), would the 5370P still be your pre... 
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Sham....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 10th, 2017-01:37
The 5370 is my favourite split second watch. More than any other split second from Patek and more than any other from another manufacturer. For me, it is the finest watch made by Patek in the last 25 years. There is nothing I would change in it. For all t... 
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And that is what ultimately counts!

 
 By: sham1 : June 10th, 2017-02:31
If we are all able to own what we feel is the best Patek in the last 25 years, we would all be quite content!
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Exactly

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 10th, 2017-02:42
So much time seems to be spent soliciting what other people think. That really should have nothing to do with it. Outside of minute repeaters, the 5370 is, to me, at the very top of Patek Philippe watches. I would choose it over any other watch that has b... 
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That's easy :-)

 
 By: sham1 : June 10th, 2017-03:29
Outside the 7000R and 5078G, I would love to own a 5959 which happens to cost a third more than my preferred minute repeaters. In my lounge, I have two limited edition lithographs framed up of Patek movements, one is 28-20/222 from the 10 day tourbillon a... 
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THAT is what watch collecting is about

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 10th, 2017-03:41
The passion and thought process in your last post makes me smile a great deal.
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One of the highlights

 
 By: sham1 : June 10th, 2017-03:45
of my watchmaking passion must have been when I was allowed to try on a 5959 in the Patek boardroom during a factory visit. The world could have ended then and I would have died a happy man!
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For those who do not know the 5959

 
 By: sham1 : June 10th, 2017-03:43
some photos to wet your appetite ...  
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Hi my friend ! Just found an interesting video...

 
 By: Mike H : June 12th, 2017-12:24
Let's share it for the pleasure of all... Enjoy , Mike
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That is just artful [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 13th, 2017-05:48
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consistency and passion

 
 By: tanknwater : June 30th, 2017-05:29
Very interesting explanations on your choosing process. I love the notion of Honeymoon. Got a long honeymoon with one of my watches. Stopped to wear it during a long while (10 years !!!); when refurbished -thanks to Mike- felt in love again, for long time... 
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consistency

 
 By: tanknwater : June 30th, 2017-05:29
Very interesting explanations on your choosing process. I love the notion of Honeymoon. Got a long honeymoon with one of my watches. Stopped to wear it during a long while (10 years !!!); when refurbished -thanks to Mike- felt in love again, for long time... 
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many thanks.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : June 30th, 2017-06:11
.....yes, i think the process behind "why" we buy a watch is fascinating. Best, Joe
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Glad to see you finally joining the PuristS family my friend...

 
 By: Mike H : July 2nd, 2017-07:49
You obviously know whose post to choose from for one of your first replies as you by chance just took the article of my English Vlad You now know of his 5370 P but most probably did not realize where you put your hand... the finest PP collection I know wi... 
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thank you.....i think. [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : July 2nd, 2017-08:03
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? There is no reason to thank me...

 
 By: Mike H : July 2nd, 2017-08:49
You know how much I don't like you for you really are the temptation embodied
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Did I help you towards a great destination? [nt]

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : July 2nd, 2017-08:55
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Yes, that is why !!!

 
 By: Mike H : July 2nd, 2017-09:04
You helped me to succomb to the temptation ! Surely a great destination (still top banana !) But the terrible thing is that you also helped me to raise my level of requirements. They are only very few (and fewer and fewer) watches that retain my attention... 
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Yep.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : July 2nd, 2017-09:08
You ARE welcome.
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Use the function

 
 By: watch-er : July 5th, 2017-11:33
Do you use the split seconds chronograph for timing two movements at once? What is the service recommendation? I would think it would be more frequent for so many tiny moving parts.
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perhaps one of the nicest chronos with patek's inhouse chrono movement

 
 By: georgeszaslavsky : July 6th, 2017-11:18
Very nice timepiece and fabulous craftsmanship on it. Congrats on your acquisition and wear it in good health
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Great review, thank you!

 
 By: Langeholic : August 27th, 2017-04:21
I spent an enjoyable period comparing the 5204, 5270, 5372, 5959 and 5370 (I am a chronograph fan). Although they are not direct comparisons, the 5370 stood out for me for many of the reasons you mentioned, the only thing I would add is every square milli... 
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i feel the same way.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : August 27th, 2017-04:36
.......i have said before that when i saw it i knew i had to have it. For me, the finest watch they have made in several decades....at least for my taste.
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Lovely review, Baron

 
 By: Magoo : September 1st, 2017-10:07
I enjoyed reading your review of a truly spectacular timepiece. As a long time collector, I appreciate your thoughtfulness, perspective and insight, which undoubtedly is welcome by all on this forum. Many thanks and may you enjoy this piece for many years... 
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Hi Magoo.....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : September 1st, 2017-10:11
......that is really kind of you and much appreciated. Many thanks. Joe
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Nice! How are you able to gather your thoughts and express it in writing in such a way that hardly anyone can argue with your choice 😊

 
 By: Greenwatch : September 1st, 2017-21:52
I struggled most of the times in my desire to eloquently explain my choice. But I guess it takes a lot of soul searching and a highly intellectual capacity to discern such thoughts. Definitely lovely thoughts on your excellent choice. I'm really learning ... 
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