Mark in Paris
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This is nice to settle with a decision we know after a while it was the right one
That's also what I experienced with my own 5712.
I also have several references I think often about and I know I must pace myself and give some more time in order to check which one is good and which one is just a short time "crush".
What's nice about the forum is that people can push forward elements you didn't think of. Then you have enough material to process to take your decision after weeks or months.
When I say that I don't look at the fact I can have 2 watches for the price of one is not a way to say the price is not important. Of course it is, but it can be a good exercize to put this element aside for a while in order to focus on the watch itself: do we like it or not. Then, back to the price issue.
At least that's how I work. But you're totally right to mention that the price we pay is of highest importance as well.
Why I do is that way is because if I start from the price, I may end getting a watch I'm not totally convinced about, thus ending making a mistake. It is better to take nothing rather than taking the less expensive that we may regret after wearing it for a month.
About the strap, I understand what you mean and I think this is indeed something quite difficult to make as it will need all the measurements of the lugs, the shape of the case etc... in order to make the strap fit. Not that easy to do.
I'm not sure the fact the pump stem being that far from the case is a problem. I think the good dimensions is the thing difficult to get.
It's in your hands!
Cheers, Mark
iPhone or Vertu for wrist shots?
I started to use my new Vertu today. During the day I tried to learn how to take photos with that and played at the same time with my iPhone 6. These are the best shots I could take today: iPhone 6: Vertu: Which one you like more or is there a difference?...
very hard to judge
you need to take both shots with the same light and from the same distance.
I'll do that later.
Vertu camera is not easy to use. It has the same adjustments as a normal camera including white balance, etc. Now I took the picture with factory settings. I'll compare these two later when I really learn to use the camera of Vertu. But naturally my sole ...
And the verdict is......
The Vertu seems to take a much sharper picture and this is based not just on the watch but the pigmentation, colour and textureof your skin if you don't mind my saying. I never thought Vertu phones were that amazing but your shots have proved otherwise. W...
It is indeed a nice toy BUT
with one Vertu one can buy 7 iPhones. However, I expect Vertu to last much longer. Best, Kari
Now the pictures are taken at the same time and same place. And the verdict is?
iPhone 6: Vertu: Best, Kari ...
i am being picky.....
.....the WB on the virtu is much colder....more blue. That is altering the feel of the shot. The Virtu has the verdict on clarity, but its not by a million miles. I also think that the autofocus on the iPhone can be tricky. Sometimes it just gets it wrong...
I corrected the white balance a bit
to correspond the daylight. Are you happier now? Best, Kari ...
I've been trying to figure out
how you got such a clear and close-up shot with your iPhone 5. Did you shoot and then crop? Took a few shots with mine and it's not nearly as good as your shot. Any suggestions? Aloha, Bob
Tough call. In the end a credit to both phone cameras.
They sure have come a long way. But we can all agree the watch looks spectacular in both shots. It is a real beauty.
I 100% agree.
There's not such a big difference but in my eyes Vertu is a bit sharper. Best, Kari
My iPhone 6S takes incredibly sharp photos ....
perhaps in yours the phone was too close to the watch ? In normal circumstances all iPhone 6 photos should be really sharp. ...
For phone cameras both are great shots of a wonderful watch.
I would suggest there is probably little to choose, taken in good light and viewed in this sort of forum view they will look great.
The trick is that
everything can be adjusted in Vertu. It's just like a "real" camera. Best, Kari
Vertu is "a five years phone"
so I'll have plenty of time to find the right adjustments. Best, Kari
I call it a draw.
I used to love my Vertu... and then they switched to Android. So it comes down to which OS and hardware you like better. The photos to me are very very close. Besides, the upcoming iPhone might be much better.
This Anroid
feels like an idiotic system after the simplicity of Apple's systems. Best, Kari
Agree.
For me, it was too much. And the security is severely compromised. But, I am old school, still holding onto my BlackBerry as a primary phone.
I am soooo old school
that I do not like these equipment at all. I still remember travelling for summer holidays 35 years ago somewhere to souther Europe. I had a heavy Nokia portable phone but those days there were no networks i.e. in the Adriatic coast of Italy. It was wonde...
You are 100% right.
So many days I have spent longing for times past, when I could only be reached on a house phone or in person. The technology has also severely diminished real human interaction, and this is especially tragic with our children...
How true!
Nowadays people meet less and many of us have more and more "virtual friends". I wonder where the life is going to. Best, Kari
A good idea!
I will be in Rome in less than two weeks and just agreed a dinner meeting with a forum member. Best, Kari
The pic from the Vertu
Looks more natural and pleasing but unless we have the same distance and background etc its not easy to compare Enjoy your new toy Kari! A Vertu phone is a nice toy to have ! Cheers Robin
I think the only
reason to have such toy is that it's a good phone for telephone conversations. Best, Kari
The comparison is not objective!
The iPhone shot is out of focus, it's point of focus appears to be the left lug, and the dial itself is marginally out of focus. The Vertu is taken from a greater distance and is in focus so appears to be a better shot - but that's it it's a better shot, ...
Here's the best I could do
Taken within seconds of each other with 3 gen of iPhone cameras iPhone 6 regular size 3264 × 2448 (8.0 MP) iPhone SE new 1 week old 4032 × 3024 (12.2 MP) iPhone 4S back camera 3264 × 2448 (8.0 MP) No processing of any kind other than rotation, and by the ...
I think it's
the latest version but I am not sure. To be honest, I'm not really excited about cell phones. Best, Kari
The quality of materials is much higher
but in many fields iPhone is unbeatable. Kari
iPhone
Now it's part of me for several years now, and I expect they will always have more space ... many things we simplify, many more complicated ... it is the new technology that now without noticing soon took decisions for us
What image sensor is in the Vertu?
As I am sure you know megapixels are nearly irrelevant now. iPhone 6 has an older image sensor but the 6s and SE have amazing ones. Vertu I believe is less than the 6 but I don\'t recall for sure. But you took a good picture irrespective!
Sorry to go off topic...
How easy/difficult was it to replace the stainless steel bracelet with the leather band? Is that a Patek leather band? Thanks.
The strap was made by CF, same company delivering straps to PP
Replacing was semi-difficult but any Patek AD can help you with removing the bracelet. The trick is to order the right type of strap. Best, Kari
And I would add...
that you should know there is a groove in the case part between the lugs that will show up after the bracelet is removed. Thus you'll have to adapt the strap if you don't want to see it. Something you have to check whether it is ok or not for you. Cheers,...
Or you can order a strap covering the groove.
That's what I did. Some careful measuring is needed but if you seriously want to get such anstrap, contact me through PM. Best Kari
I think what you did Kari,Is as good as it gets
But the grove still shows in some angles which is totally fine by the buyer should know that he will never get the same platinum version outcome. Best, Ahmed
I will get also the platinum version in the end of the month like I told you.
My problem with 5960 is that I like it in steel, I like the P with grey dial, blue dial, black dial... That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Best, Kari
I have the same feelings towards
All the platinum versions,But the SS is something different,The dial adds a sporty character to the watch much more than the platinum versions,Makes it a very nice daily wearer,And the value can\'t be ignored. On the other hand the platinum heft.....You k...
The right way is to get both the steel & the platinum versions.
Or steel + two platinum versions - or steel plus three platinum versions... Seriously: I have more than one or two Patek but 5960 is very hard to beat as a daily watch. It has everything! Best, Kari
What exactly did you want to emphasize,Mark
I am keen about your evaluation of the 5960 stainless and platinum. Best, Ahmed
It was about the strap adjustment
If you wish to go for the 5960/1A because you know you can adjust a strap, I just wanted to underline the fact that you will have to work the customed strap in order it hides this groove between the lugs (Jester posted pictures in the past). As people com...
Yes,I have seen Kari's watch and
Got the opportunity to check all the details. The dial is very nice with the applied chronograph counter,The strap as well is matching the watch as if it\'s meant to I have to add that the slot between the lugs will not be hidden by any kind of strap 100...
About strap and 5960s
If I were to purchase a 5960/1A, that's what I would do (found for instance on some UN watches): As for the 5960P Grey, you saw it way before me but I see that we had the same splendid experience! Yes indeed, I think that we all have the same issue, whate...
Great advice!
But how would you advice me: You know that I love my 5960A. I will also pick up from Patek in May 5960P-016 (black). That's fantastic! But now I have started to think that having two without the original grey dial would be hard... Any ideas? Best, Kari
The Collection matter
It is always tempting, though we might be wondering if another watch will not come on top of such a project in a way to diversify the collection. I thought about how cool would be to get for instance the four 5070 or the 5110 etc... I'm sure people may li...
I think a lot about what you are saying
That we have to free our minds from the forums favorites to be able to enjoy the watch you love the you can see I didn\'t hesitate about the 5167 not the 5712 for a second,I believe the are the best of both families for my taste and use. On the other han...
This is nice to settle with a decision we know after a while it was the right one
That's also what I experienced with my own 5712. I also have several references I think often about and I know I must pace myself and give some more time in order to check which one is good and which one is just a short time "crush". What's nice about the...
Today was the Constitution Day of Republic of Poland.
We went to the reception of the Polish Embassy nicely dressed. I wore my 5550P and Tarja her Nautilus - she has forgotten other watches. The crazy thing was that those 9 hours I wore 5550P, I enjoyed it a lot. At the same time I was missing my 5960... Aft...
This means a lot
and is a very pleasant feeling to know this watch gives us what we are looking for when dealing with watches. Aside of the dark blue strap for the 5960P, I also think a dark grey (and even light grey one) would look great and much different from the usual...
I will enjoy at least two of them
and I think I'll find some nice solutions for the black one. Best, Kari
Something matching with driving my coming FIAT.
The car comes out from production line on Friday next week and I should get the strap in two weeks... Best, Kari
In both of my Porsche
the leather is black with small holes due to the ventilation. In BMW dark red - not stylish... Ferrari seats I have not seen yet because the car is rolling out from production only in the end of next week. So no, not from the seats. But seat belts might b...
I thought you were literally going to carve into your seats!
We never know when watches are in the deal. Some combinations are very tempting but then you wonder is you'll get fed up and if it is not too much. A very different strap makes a very different watch. Stepping out of the road is quite hard indeed. But eve...
I'm boring.
Typically I order black, navy blue, brown and dark grey. But sometimes I play with stitching. However, it's a long way before I will have a Patek MR in pink strap. Best, Kari
Ahmed, I understand you perfectly!
I am still thinking about a perfect solution to the issue. Probably there is one... Sorry two. Best, Kari
Kari,You don't fail to amaze me!!
I will probably get it around the end of the year,Waiting for the new ways Best, Ahmed
I had to spend a bit when trying to find the solution
and now when I know how it works, I'm helping others with pleasure. Best, Kari