Patek Philippe

Greetings - trying to find a platinum Patek that is thin (sub 10mm) and small diameter (37-38) which can be worn as a dress watch. I know the typical definition of a dress watch is a 2 or 3 hand (no date) very simple dial... and the World Time doesn't mee... 

This isn't decision by committee you know... Why would you entrust strangers to make a deeply personal choice on your behalf? I suggest you try both of them on and see if either of them speak to you. Maybe neither are compelling enough which is why you're... 

Seen this nearly-verbatim response on other occasions and it's always a pin-prick to the eyeball. However, it's quite accurate. After re-reading my post, I do feel slightly shamed now for asking strangers opinions, and a little more ashamed for not feelin... 

I will reword your question in an attempt at shame reduction. I’m looking into a platinum dress watch and I love PP. I’ve narrowed it down to 2 models that are in my price range and both seem wonderful. But as I have not owned either, I’m looking for feed... 

Concise, informative, elegant! Best, Robert

I like his wording too. And hopefully you get more facts this way.

Beautiful wording! I like it too!

I'm just of the opinion that the jury should not be tainted with opinions of those who are not invested in you personally (only someone who knows you and the watches are qualified to make an opinion on your behalf). A watch should be an expression of ones... 

Thanks!

The 5110P has the 240 caliber. One of my favorite calibers because it has a micro rotor movement! I just like micro rotors, no particular reason why. While micro rotor watches are super cool, they are less efficient. The 240 caliber only winds in one dire... 

My self-asteem is slowing rising! Best, Robert

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Thank you for sharing!

Just to present both sides, however, one pretty big point for me in favor of the 5196 would be its potential availability via an AD, since it's still in the regular collection. Even though I don't have anything in principle against buying second-hand (wit... 

Also, the 5196p has the platinum deployant and the clear caseback going for it...

The 5110p has those attributes - not the 5196p.

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But I do have a 5196P available to go immediately

Not sure I understand?

I have one listed in the forums here! Haha

A pure dress watch should be as simple as possible, hence my vote would be for the 5196P.

In that regard, the 5196p is a quieter dial. Best, Robert

The solid case back on the 5196 is a deal breaker.

but honestly I would love to own the 5110p as well because it's different and PP WT is best! You won't go wrong with either but like Patrick suggested, wear it and feel them, you'll know right away. ...  

I'm constantly on a lookout for a PP WT and this 5110P is very high on the list.

and impressive glace on your dress shoes! Best, Robert

The 5196 series while very popular really needs an upgrade in terms of increased movement size to balance the perspective of the dial. This is probably coming very soon.

The 215 movement is in my opinion the wrong movement for the 5196 so big surprise if it was me I would go for any WTers 😂

For me, it is the nicest size world timer and it has a useful complication should you travel a lot. Also the guilloche on the dial is an added attraction. The 5110P has a basic 215 movement but you will own a manual winding watch which for me personally t... 

but since I've already had the distinct pleasure of buying new from a Patek boutique (and enjoyed it immensely) - I have no issues at all purchasing pre-loved. Best, Robert

writes half asleep! My mistake Nico, I has meant the 5196P!

It’s a beautiful and truly iconic PP. Best, V.

For transparency I don’t own either Good luck in you deciding Maybe one day you can have both 😃👍🏻 ...  

But the 5196P has its own charm. Also, I find the 5110P dial to be not not as legible, as the hands get washed out on the dial depending on the light. All that said, it has real charm and romance. ...  

I would choose the 5196P. I think it is one of the nicest "simple" watches available. I would not choose the 5110, because I have a difficult time reading it. As my eyes have gotten older (along with the rest of me), I cannot read the small print. Also, t... 

Despite numbers that are very close to one another! I think that's an important thing to consider. The 5110 dial is smaller and much more intricate, so it feels *even* smaller. The 5196 dial is wider and plainer, so it feels much more expansive. The 5110 ...  

5196 is more dressy. The 24 hour ring of the 5110, along with its more complicated function, has certain charm/magic to it that is very special, whereas the 5196 is simply classy and typical Patek DNA. In the end, it comes down to your feeling on it on yo...