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Patek folding buckles.
Used to be in the olden days, all the watches sold here in the US came with the 12.5mm Stern buckle (the pointed tang style buckle used today throughout the world which was originally designed by Henri Stern) and the folding buckle was an accessory purchased separately. The 14mm squared buckle was commonly referred to as the European buckle.
When the original ref 6000 was introduced, it was fitted with a folding buckle and thereafter many other watches also featured the folding buckle.
It seemed at the time of the introduction of the 6000, prices were creeping up. The 6000 while priced higher along with the rest of the offerings, seemed like a deal because of the folding buckle. Similar situation with winders, before never supplied with watches, then with the 3940, etc. I don't think it was a throw in by any means but an extra which made the price increases less painful because something else was included other than the watch itself. There may be others here who may have noticed the same.
Over the years, I had clients who preferred the folding buckle. It certainly allowed straps to last longer and was no hassle to use.
I don't know if collectors prefer the folding buckle over the tang buckle. I believe it's more personal preference than anything else. But it seems there are a lot of folks who advocate the tang buckle for security reasons which I must agree. I have had the screw back out of the older style buckle (even with adhesive) which was a bit alarming but the newer buckles seem to have eliminated that issue.
I do like the appearance but find I change them periodically, currently using the Stern buckle.
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Patek with deployment clasps.
Some Pateks come with deployment clasp while others come with buckle on leather straps. Collectors typically favours pieces with deployment clasp. Is there a guideline on how Patek decides whether their pieces are fixed with deployment clasp or with buckl...
Depends....
Depends on the particular piece, really. Personally I think the standard tang buckle is the more classic. From a practical standpoint the deployant perhaps affords greater security when placing the watch on one's wrist, whereas the tang buckle adds greate...
Not 100% true
Patek offers pin buckles for the most classic references (I don't want to use the word "entry level" which I don't think is a right word for a watch in this price and quality segment.) such as 5127, 5296, 5124, 5098, etc. One of very few exception is the ...
Safety...
I agree with your comments, but I'm not sure that I understand your point on safety. I think that the deployant may be helpful for some when initially putting on the watch to prevent dropping it, but once it's safely on the wrist I believe the standard bu...
I didnt think much of .....
the deployment buckle until I came into contact with one on my Patek. And from there, I totally understand what your comments about security means. Do not underestimate the deployment clasp. That clip really holds. Thanks for your comments for what you th...
question reg 6000r
you mentioned 6000r always comes with a deployant buckle. i saw a few now with rosegold pin buckles. where they sold with pins aswell? thank you!
"deployant clasps"
I spent a "fortune" on them in the past, but today I prefer a buckle most of the time. Not only because of the understatement. At the end it is just a matter of taste and habit. Oliver
I put all my watches on a pin buckle,
even the 5070 or the Daytona 116518, for both safety and comfort reasons. It is much more comfortable for smaller wrists. Original pin buckles do not come cheap, though... Cheers, R
Deployant/Deployment
Just a pet peeve, and I realize it contributes nothing to the content of this thread, but it's "deployant" not "deployment".
Thanks
for correcting me. I let the predictive text correct me too much they sub the wrong word in. And yes, deployant clips are nice to have and it's boils down to taste and preference. Where to buy them if they don't come with ur Patek. Also, do you guys attac...
Check with your AD
My local AD usually has the deployant clasp in a variety of sizes and metals, or can order one if not in inventory. A previous customer might have swapped out a deployant for a standard buckle, or vice versa. I would try there first. They are frequently a...
There is not rule
My 5205 initially was assembled with simple buckle - I purchased the deployment clasp as I think it's more secure... And I like the calatrava cross as well;)
Patek folding buckles.
Used to be in the olden days, all the watches sold here in the US came with the 12.5mm Stern buckle (the pointed tang style buckle used today throughout the world which was originally designed by Henri Stern) and the folding buckle was an accessory purcha...
I like..
the deployant clip very much and very glad the only Patek watch I own came with it.. It's easy to wear, elegant looking and definitely make the leather strap more lasting. The pin buckle have the tendency to weaken the hole which the pin would poke throug...
Yes, my Patek comes with this one in WG too...
But, I thought this is the only deployant clip on Patek that is on leather strap. U mean there are other types ???
"Stern" deployant
There is a newer style deployant that features a Stern buckle rather than the Calatrava cross within a circle. It's really much more discreet in appearance.
Do you mean this one ....
that I found on the internet ? The Calatrava cross is more distinctive on a leather strap than this. Wearing a watch as prestigious as a Patek, you would want a loud emblem to complement it. The Calatrava cross does it very well. If this is the deployant ...
Stern clasp
Opinions and tastes vary, but "loud" is not necesarily the message I want my watches to convey, even more so with Patek. The deployant I was referencing is not either of the ones pictured in your posts above. It has the appearance of a regular Stern tang ...
I know what you mean i think
I have this version on my 5130... it is a deployant buckle but without calatrava cross... right?
Correct
I've seen it referred to as the 'Henri Stern deployant clasp' and basically has the appearance of the standard tang style buckle but with the deployant mechanism. I believe that both deployant styles are available (Calatrava and Stern) and best I can tell...
The Stern buckle is the newer style?
The ADs that I visited only have the cross style deployant on their watches. My 5146 is 3 month old and it came with the Calatrava Cross deployant.
opposite - ints an old one...
my 5130 has this sort of buckle - purchased in 2009, in 2010 they changed the deployant buclke and added there Calatrava cross.
Actually it's the "old new style"
I may be mistaken, and I'm no expert or fan of the Patek deployant, but I think that the Calatrava style deployant has been around the longest. The Stern style deployant seems to have been introduced more recently but may not have been as well recieved an...
Exactly!
THIS IS RIGHT! The stern type deployant looks like the closing latch on the wooden patek box and may have been introduced a around the same time as the change in box style. The older style large square boxes i remember had a reddish color wood with a smal...
Yep
Patrick nailed it, that's the one I was referencing. A completely different look from the Calatrava cross but functionally similar. Don't know if there's a price difference but I would think not significant if any.
Owing to the sharing of knowledge....
Of other forum members in another topic, I think I can give another example of another so called "stern deployant", The reference 5350R !