Patek Philippe

Craziness. Even as a die hard fan of the Nautilus I can not explain just what has happened over the last few days. The original 3700 in all guises had exploded, it has becone “Daytonafied” Even the unpopular 3700 s/g has tripled in value If it was just on...  

A 2018 5711 for quadruple the retail is unfathomable Just for an added word The world is gone berserk It’s not about collecting anymore what a true shame

I totally agree, for many buyers it's all about speculative investment potential nowadays without any passion for the watches itself.

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I love the 5270R even though it is not very collectible. I wear it with joy. ...  

Perhaps expectedly, the big results of the SS models are finally bringing everything else along. I love the Nautilus, but this seems to have reached levels of pure market craziness now... One thing is for sure though: for as long as this lasts, it's a fas... 

I have one business partner who owns a 3700 in yellow gold and steel. Since I know him maybe 5 years now, he always has the same watch except the last time I saw him, he was wearing a Reverso. I'll ask him what happened to the Patek Philippe and let him k... 

What is driving this mania? Three years ago, nautilus’ were trading at retail. What is the impetus for this bubble or is demand so great that prices will remain elevated? The nautilus never seemed like a limited edition type of watch until the past couple... 

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With these crazy prices I still don't think of selling (could sell with handsome profit) as I will never ever buy again (or can buy) once I sell mine. My one and only Patek Hope to have a 2nd one in the future, who knows

I agree that the Nautilus is an iconic watch but it represents poor value for money at current auction and used prices. With the same amount of money, one could secure a chronograph or perpetual calendar or even a perpetual calendar chronograph ie a 3970.... 

Another financial meltdown down and a lot of people will suffer ...don’t get me wrong but lot of these wat he’s will become safe queens like my 3712 which I stopped wearing as it’s an investment grade bond which has given me probably by far 5 x the return... 

I have desired a ref 3700 for a while watching it rocket to stratospheric proportions About 5 years ago was offered one for 40k and I passed It seems to be to e the PN of the Patek world will it crash and burn and all end in tears - who knows but I think ... 

Most buyers are in the market for a limited time only and believe the Nautilus was a „rare“ watch. In fact it is the entry level Patek. This limited oversight of most buyers at the current price point distorts prices. The bubble will burst as Patek will c... 

while I wear my pedestrian watches.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on the prices. Best, Martin

The Tiffany 5711 just blew me away. It seems buyers/speculators and perhaps collectors are inferring collectabilty in modern Tiffany dialed Pateks from that which we see in the vintage co-signed Pateks. I really don't believe this is a valid conclusion, b... 

As a style, it’s not one for me. Having said that, nothing much surprises me now with markets. Patek has made a distinct move to attract younger buyers. It’s working.

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it is one of the very few PPs that is intriguing to me but i also equally know i'm almost not going to have it...neither i've a series of PP purchase so the AD gets me one nor i'm going to pay anything on top of retail.... with that, i actually don't give... 

As an owner of a 3700 and vintage daytonas, I will say it is quite incredible to see what is happening. There has never been a time where the divide between what is desired and what is not has been so great. Some amazing watches sit and cannot be sold, ye... 

Slim, sleek and sexy. A chicks magnet of a watch. Gerald Genta is a genius in design. Geross. 😉

.......it takes all the attention away from other amazing references which is good for buyers of other models! Long may this Nautilus craze continue!

The forgotten 38mm Nautilus Have had it for over 10 years and love the size and wearability; I don’t really care about the market trends and the crazy after market and auction prices for the Nautilus ...  

It could fetch more than 5711... but don't ever sell. Congratulation!

Some years ago I got my 3700 in almost mint condition with original box (not cork) and „Certificat d‘Origine“ for what I thought to be an outrageous price. It is my only PP. And it came at a fraction by last weekends‘ standards. Is it relevant to me: not ...  

I have not seen many 3700 with the lumes looking like new as your watch! Most have deteriorated or discolored... Do you wear it often or is it because you keep it safe somewhere. The watch looks great!

and last sunday, a 5711p, the real LE one, not the anniversary, sold for k€ 350 Olé !!!!!!

and last sunday, a 5711p, the real LE one, not the anniversary, sold for k€ 350 Olé !!!!!!

I heard this caused some drama in the NYC store - the buyer flipped the watch immediately after receiving it, and apparently some ADs did not want to sell it to non-vetted customer.

Is it sustainable? As I said, I’m not a buyer. Do I expect valuations for this and every other “asset” class to decelerate and / or decline? I do. So goes the global economic cycle. Said differently, if I were an actual “flipper” as my handle suggests...I...