Patek Philippe

Hi everyone I just saw new fotos of the production pc 5204p from hodinkee. I think it looks great. Just wondering what is the consensus about the 5204p compare to the 5004p.? Base on the Dial, movement and porportion and overall feel of the watches. Pls d...  

I don't like the large Patek Philippe font on the 5204 nor am I thrilled with the hands which seem more apropos for a sport watch. And, why is the moon upside down on the 5204? Last time I looked at the moon is was up high in the sky!

I still prefer the 5004 in any metal over the 5204P; however, I do actually like the fact that the 5204p has lume and is 40mm...though some would argue lume should not be on a piece like this. I think the 5204P could replace the 5004 as the ultimate daily... 

... that the hands are Wg compared to the proto that was oxidized hands( your last pics). So your 1st pics is exactly how the watch will look like. What to say, huge improvement from the 5004 IMO. Too bulky, while 5204P got it all right. Gorgeous dial and... 

Both watches are excellent on the outlook. 5204 has a bigger dial while 5004 is slightly smaller. I am not sure if I am accurate here but i have read somewhere that 5204 is the replacement reference of the 5004, or something along those lines. While 5004 ... 

All are wonderful and valid points , especially to akitaishi for the detailed comparison. Would like to ask how you guys feel about the width/ height porportion and the case size / pusher button porportion on both watch. Remember 5004 is 36.7mm snd 5204 i...  

The 5204 with the hands and baton hour markers like 5004/A or polished white gold...perfect! 5004/A is the best of the best, but in 40 mm it would be to die for :-)

in stainless, not platinum. As I recall this is the 5004 with the black baton markers, similar to 5970G. It looks great. The 5004 is poorly proportioned in regard to diameter/thickness. The proportions of the 5204 are nearly perfect on the wrist.

Long time no chat, hope all is well with you. Yes you are right the last pic i post was a SS 5004A. I just wanted to show the case porportion of both watch and this are the pics available on my ipad, hehehe... I agree w you porportionally the 5204 is much... 

I had the pleasure of handling the 5204P and a 5004p baton markers in Geneva. Both are fantastic! However, like the 5270 and the 5970 ( i own both). The newer release it a far better watch from movement and fit and finish. Again, Beauty is in the eye of t... 

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Just the guy i was hoping to get some answer , someone w handson experience on the 5204. Hope u dont mind i ask you a few more question. 1) how does it fits compare to the 5970 ? The watch feels good on the wrist? 2) how would you rate the 5204 to the 500... 

1) It is slightly bigger in diameter than the 5970. The 5970 is truly 39mm. This is a true 40MM. It is a little smaller than the 5270 but not by much. It is also thicker than the 5970 and sits higher on the wrist. The case feels bulkier as well. Just more...  

Thk you very much for the comprehensive reply. Its indeed very helpful. I love the overall look of the 5204 very much. Your input certainly convince me even more. I think the dial is gorgious. Best Iceman

what are we talking about, 5004P or 5004A? Second and last picture shows 5004A. Maybe a small difference for some, but for me it would be a huge one. I can appreciate the weight and colour shades of platinum, but the dial makes the biggest difference for ...  

If i had a chance on the 5004A, this thread would not exist :-))) hehehee...... Unfortunately we mortal have to scrub from the left overs ( not to bad either actually ;-))). Yes i am comparing 5204p to the 5004p... Thk you for your honest opinion on both ... 

and if there is a "club for mortals" - count me in :-) Best, Oliver

Do I understand correctly that there have been 2 production versions, the one with the lighter hands and markers being the current version? This version looks too "washed out" to my eye.

PM sent :-)

enlighten us all, very curious on the two dials? One with black hands, one with wg silvery hands? One with a creamier dial?

... i am not sure that the 1st batch of 5204P had the dark hands and indexes. I think it was just on the proto. I think that the production watch had Wg hands and indexes. If you ask me, they both look great. Just wished that the dial would be a little bi... 

(as I trust my reliable source) there was a dial change for a good reason. The first batch (not only the proto´s) looked different and some have been sold.

... good to know. Anyway, looks amazing in both configuration!